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    Usually i defend the sport i love and all the steroids, HGH and insulins etc and accept it as part of the iron game.

    However after seeing this picture im finding it hard

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    Look at Zacs nipples and Daz's bellybutton. At the time obviously these wernt pro's until Zac went on to win. Now look at this

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    Obviously times have changed. Zane was a Pro as Khan is today but there is a massive change. I think the IFBB should change the guidlines etc in competitors. Ive got to admit i love the 'freaks' but at the same time they should still look amazing and not just fat and ugly.
    If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them...


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    Totally agree with you, and the sad thing is I bet both those guys looked awesome at one stage...
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    Yeah i agree mate, dont get me wrong im not against gear or anything i never will but this is awful. I mean some of the IFBB stars do look impressive, i.e. Phil Heath etc but these guys look horrible. Im more into the more powerful physiques of late such as Bill Khazmeir when he was around, but obviously its a totally different sport. But Zanes physique is hard to beat.
    If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them...


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    Yeah Zane is Awesome, Phils a big fan of his as well. You seen this link Fave Bodybuilders/Figure...
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    its just like breeding bulldogs..

    ewww thats a nasty looking belly full stop..the belly button just tops it off...
    i reckon the standard should be revised but i doubt it ever will be..
    thats kinda what the classic class is for these days?..

    the media loves monsters tho dont they..
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    these pics are over 18months old both of these guys looked much much better the last time they both competed which was October 2009....Daz had a Hernia which was caused by heavy lifting not gear and Zack had bitch tits although easy to counter not really that bad on a guy his size.....
    comparing these mass monsters to a lightweight like Zane is wrong there are plenty of Pro's that are not mass monsters like Dexter, Heath that have the classic look of the Zane era......

    in bodybuilding you will always have the mass monsters some look good some don't i challenge anyone to say Zack did not look very good last year though......

    so for the title of this thread "State of modern day bodybuilding" i think it is in a good place all you have to do is look at the physiques of the last 4 UK Pro's (Flex, James L, Zack and Shaun T) all have classic lines small waists and great muscle bellies......i think in the whole the state of Bodybuilding is on the up.....

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    Im not saying Zac didnt look good but this picture in particular highlights the state off bodybuilding, bitch tits on stage doesnt look good. I saw a guy (sorry not sure of his name) with sythol dripping from his shoulder during a contest. Some mass monsters as we call them do look amazing but then looking at bodbuilders like Marcus Ruhl etc and you see what i mean. Dont get me wrong i love bodybuilding, i would just like to see the more classic physiques.

    Although i was comparing Zane to these two guys, i was also making a comparison of era's. Franco Columbo and Arnie were both huge, but still looked amazing.
    If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them...


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    it's all a matter of personal preference. Like paul said, there are more aesthetic physiques and there are the more freaky sized guys. It's left to the judges to decide which look is more rewarded. For me, Frank Zane was never someone who's physique i admired at any stage. Bodybuilding is 1st and foremost about mass to me, and Zane never had much. Zack i think actually does have an aesthetically pleasing shape, and a TON of mass. Then other current pro's like Heath and Dexter are pretty much the bodybuilding ideal in terms of shape/proportion. All sports evolve, sprinters got quicker, golfers drive further, bodybuilders got bigger. No one wants to see syntholed up losers with sh*t dripping from their shoulders on stage, but a few idiots doesn't detract from the achievements of others. Still today i'm blown away in amazement when i see some of the physiques in the sport. Had Zane's physique remained the ideal, the sport would have become very boring a long time ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishfingers View Post
    Im not saying Zac didnt look good but this picture in particular highlights the state off bodybuilding, bitch tits on stage doesnt look good. I saw a guy (sorry not sure of his name) with sythol dripping from his shoulder during a contest. Some mass monsters as we call them do look amazing but then looking at bodbuilders like Marcus Ruhl etc and you see what i mean. Dont get me wrong i love bodybuilding, i would just like to see the more classic physiques.

    Although i was comparing Zane to these two guys, i was also making a comparison of era's. Franco Columbo and Arnie were both huge, but still looked amazing.
    i understand what your saying to a degree but like i said you are looking at pictures over 18months ago if you look at both these guys now (Zack, Daz) both have great physiques.....i agree with the synthol it has no place in BB in my opinion but that is one guy in a thousand highlighting the negative is what makes the sport worse in my opinion......

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodyworks View Post
    it's all a matter of personal preference. Like paul said, there are more aesthetic physiques and there are the more freaky sized guys. It's left to the judges to decide which look is more rewarded. For me, Frank Zane was never someone who's physique i admired at any stage. Bodybuilding is 1st and foremost about mass to me, and Zane never had much. Zack i think actually does have an aesthetically pleasing shape, and a TON of mass. Then other current pro's like Heath and Dexter are pretty much the bodybuilding ideal in terms of shape/proportion. All sports evolve, sprinters got quicker, golfers drive further, bodybuilders got bigger. No one wants to see syntholed up losers with sh*t dripping from their shoulders on stage, but a few idiots doesn't detract from the achievements of others. Still today i'm blown away in amazement when i see some of the physiques in the sport. Had Zane's physique remained the ideal, the sport would have become very boring a long time ago.
    could not of said it better myself....

    it does come down to personal preference Arnold was mentioned but to be fair if you actually look at his physique it was far from complete, he had average Abs and conditioning with poor legs for a guy with an upper body that size.....do not get me wrong Arnold was good but to be fair his physique was poor when you compare it to the likes of Heath, Dextor, Cutler etc....in my opinion Arnold did more good for BB off stage than he ever did onstage

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    Yeah I agree it does come down to personal preference and I do think that was just a particularly bad picture of the two and I agree the UK does have some awesome looking guys.

    I think there will always be that debate though even with the biggest guys and how far do you take it... IMO Ronnie Coleman for example looked so much better before he gained the extra weight and lost the shape of his abs.

    It will be interesting to see where BB is in another 30 years, will we be looking back in the same way. Either way I have the greatest respect for people pushing the boundaries in the sport even if it isn't to personal taste I do agree it's prob need to keep the sport interesting.
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