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| Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 620 Rep Power: ![]() | just recently a few of my m8s have tried these PHs and pro steroids. iv heard of M1T, methl drol, halodrol 50, halovar, superdrol, amongst a shit load of others. basically, i want to know what these compounds are compared to real steroids?? are they clones or copies of real steroids?? so for example is haladrol 50 a copy of oral turinabol and is M1T a copy of test?? if so which ones are the 19nors etc??? The reason im asking is that im interested in kick starting my next cycle with one of these PHs. iv heard ppl gain 10lbs in 2 weeks on this stuff with no sides!!???? what are the side effects of these compounds like??? im mainly worried about the possibility of androgenic sides. The reason im opying to kick start with a PH is 1. i dont want to risk losing my hair by using something like dbol and 2. Im intrigued to give the PHs a go. 3. Neil R did a cycle recently and reported great gains on a cutting cycle. anyway - i know its a long post and iv asked shit loads of Qs but i just wana get to the bottm of this 1. cheers - si |
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| Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 608 Rep Power: ![]() | Well the reason i did my cycle (and intend on doing more) is coz I wanted to know first hand if these were any good (for me). I was pleased to report they were. For the most part, just treat them as If they were real gear, from what i've experienced the benefits are the same, and the negatives are the same too. All the ones you mentioned are hard hitting Ph/PS and do require some for of PCT. ______________________ APPLIED KNOWLEDGE, IS POWER!!! The real challenge is to be yourself in a world that wants you to be someone else!! |
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| Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 620 Rep Power: ![]() | what i really want to know is what is the differnece between all the different types of pro steroid/hormones and can each one be compared to a specific steroid? for example is superdrol similar to dbol? and is halodrol similar to EQ? etc etc also - what PH/PS is the least androgenic??? cheers |
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| Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,279 Rep Power: ![]() | They are just longer chain molecules which are similar to anabolic steroids and as they are broken down in the body end up being a steroid. Its like when the banned GHB all people did was change one ingredient from sodium to potassium bcos when they ban things they ban a formula and this is how they get around the pro hormone ban. ______________________ 25% OFF FOR ALL MC MEMBERS! www.extremenutrition.co.uk www.gasp-uk.com |
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| Administrator Muscle Chat Management Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Babylon Posts: 360 Rep Power: ![]() | Personally I think if you are looking for the results you get from steroids then just use steroids. IMO prohormones are overpriced and compared to the cost of gear the cost:benefit ratio is off compared to gear. These things (PHs) cost £50 or thereabouts for a months supply at 2 tabs a day (or something) There's no way you'd pay that for a few hundred dbol for example. I'm not saying use gear but if you are using prohormones then the only difference is a few carbon chains. ______________________ Get an extra 5% off all products at www.mosn.co.uk Use code 'MC 110' when ordering Also mod at www.uk-muscle.co.uk Excellence is a Habit not a skill Any advice I give is from my own experience, I do not recommend the use of drugs. Be responsible and careful if you decide to use any performance enhancing product as misuse can result in dangerous side effects. |
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| Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 620 Rep Power: ![]() | iv used gear b4 - test but tbh im looking for a 3-4 week kick start of pro hormones. i wouldnt touch dbol with a barge poll coz of how androgenic it is. basically im looking for a PH with good gains and low andronicity. is there one on the market??? |
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| Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,279 Rep Power: ![]() | Anything that is going to offer the results you mentioned, 10lbs in 2 weeks, will have an androgenic effect. You DO NOT make gains like that on high anabolic gear like primo, equipoise or even deca, that kind of weight gain will involve water retention which is a result of a higher androgen product. If I remember correctly M1T is very close to Dbol in chemical structure, possibly why the gains are so good? I'm not a fan of Dbol personally but I'm intrigued to know why you say you wont touch it due to androgenicity, you want big gains and they don't come without some degree of down side. Any hormonal manipulation normally comes along with a degree of "paying the piper" at some point. ______________________ 25% OFF FOR ALL MC MEMBERS! www.extremenutrition.co.uk www.gasp-uk.com |
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| Illuminati | lol cos he`s proud of his mullet ![]() you gotta remember if youre lucky? enuff to gain 10 pounds in 2 weeks very little will be muscle mate. ______________________ einsteins mind was the key to all things...to understand more than to know. www.englishmuscle.co.uk www.extremenutrition.co.uk |
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| Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 620 Rep Power: ![]() | fair comments extreme and cal. i wouldnt touch dbol coz it horrendous for triggering MPB. and iv seen this 1st hand with a mate of mine who did a 4week coarse of it. it totally ****ed him over in the barnet dept!! i know that a lot of the weight may be water, but i would only be using it as a kickstart. i have decided to just go with test alone now because iv heard mixed reports about some of the pro steroids. for example some ppl say that superdrol doesnt cause MPB, but i also hear that it is structurally very similat to masteron which is very hard on the hairline. basically cal is right, i love my mullet!!! |
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