Help with 1st cycle Halovar (haldrol 50 clone)

juiceup12

Hi im about to start a cycle of halovar which is a clone of haldrol 50. I have these support supps:
Milk thistle
hawthorne berrys
multi vitamin
NO explode
Protien shake
Saw palmetto berrys

For post cycle therapy i have novedex xt and nolvadex on hand. Can someone tell me how much dose of the support supps shall i take.. the milk thistle, saw palmetto berrys and hawthorne berrys.. shall i take the recommended dose? also for PCT Shall i just use novedex xt or shall i use nolvedex as well? in what dose everyday? shall i take it the day i stop halovar? does nolvedex have any side effects? also shall i take the NO EXPLODE while on the halovar or just during pct will it mess me up? will be grateful if anyone can help me

razg

Milk thistle - 1g/day
Hawthorn - 500mg/day
SP - 320mg/day

I would also recommend NAC at around 500mg, twice daily. Take your Novedex at whatever they recommend - it's crap, but won't hurt. If you use Nolva, your PCT protocol should be something like:

Day 1 : 60mg
2-14 : 40mg
15-end : 20mg

I would avoid pump supplements whilst on, it might make life difficult. You can use it during PCT to improve motivation/intensity in the gym, but stimulants do raise cortisol (it's a trade-off).

juiceup12

Thanks for the reply mate, please can you tell me! if i dont take NO EXPLODE during the cycle wil i get the extra strength from the halovar? also when is best time to take halovar pill? can i take it same time with the milk thistle? and hawthorne berrys ? and saw palmetto? also is it good to take multi vitamins ?

razg

NO-Explode won't make you stronger. It might be better used in PCT.

Take your Halovar pill with a meal containing fat.

The rest of the stuff, it doesn't really matter when you take it - do take your multivitamin.

Best of luck.

juiceup12

ok, one more thing can i take the milk thistle and hawthorn berry and sawpalmetto same time with the halovar pill? or is it better to seperate them .. you said take the halovar with a fat food, can you give me a good example? a small food.

razg

There is no evidence/literature to dictate what to do in this case. Take them however is convenient - however in practice splitting doses into as many times as possible works.

Fat? Literally any food or meal containing 10g+ of fat.

juiceup12

thx mate! im going to be running a cycle for a month, some say they use the milk thistle in pct? which is better? shall i run it during cycle and in pct, also for my pct is nolvadex reali needed? as halovar does not convert to estrogen, how many days will i have to run nolva for? how can i tell if my own bodys test has been shut down? is it when your nuts shrink? will nolva do any harm to my body? let me know please

razg

Use milk thistle for as long as you want. I'd personally use it until I finish everything (including Nolva).

Nolvadex (or clomid) is required to restore your natural test levels - it will return without it, but slower - and that means more loss of gains, less libido etc (this also has health implications).

You are shut down as soon as you introduce any external hormones. Some peoples' nuts shrink, some don't, that's no indication. Nolva is a serious drug, as is any steroid. If you want to learn about possible problems hit up pubmed.org.

sitries

what sort of gains can you expect from a motnh of this stuff. is it similar to superdrol. what are the side effetcs compared to the real thing. ie, hairloss, gyno etc