Tall

Okay...

Firstly this isn't a "I want to take Pro Hormones can anyone help me out" question... I'm just a bit confused and want some more info.

Steroids are an active hormone as are Pro Steroids, but Steroids are a controlled substance and Pro Steroids are either available OTC or they were until recently yes?

Pro Hormones are 1 atom behind Steroids/Pro Steroids, are orally taken and the liver does the conversion to the steroid hormone, and again are either available OTC or they were until recently yes?

So therefore as Pro Hormones turn into steroids, proper PCT must be run in the 'standard form' and diet and training must be set up as though the person were on steroids yes?

So my question is given some of these Pro Hormones appear to have side effects just as harsh as steroids, they seem to be as easy to get hold of (providing you have a 'source'), appear to be a bit more costly (again price would depend on 'source') and yet the gains appear to be less that you could expect on an actual cycle... Why do people run them...?

Is it just so they feel they can say they are natural...? Or is it all to do with the legality...? Or am I missing something that Pro Hormones bring to the table...?

Cheers Gents.

(Oh and before anyone says 'search' or 'research' I've read pretty much all the posts in this section along with the normal googling... )

razg

People use PH over AAS for the same reason they use PS over AAS. Legal, easy to get hold of, less guilt about it seeming bad.

Tall

So PH and PS are still legal in this country...? Wasn't sure if they were banned now - I know they are in the states.

razg

Specific compounds are banned, not the class of drugs.

TinyTom

I've never understood the reasoning behind taking PH.

If you want those sorts of gains then why not just take soem gear? especially as the sides are normally the same.

I think its to do with the kidding factor i.e. 'oh Im not a roid head I take prohormones'

Tall

Cheers Raz.

Carrying on... Are any Pro Hormones more effective than oral steroids...? (I know its not quite comparing apples with apples...)

For example 1-Test/1AD is apparently 700% more anabolic than Test (which obviously you can't easily take orally...) but has a study been done which compares the effectiveness of Pro Hormones against Oral Steroids...?

If 1-Test was so much more anabolic than Test, then surely everyone and his dog (chequer drops anyone...?) would be doing it, but from what I can see - gains are less on Pro Hormones so are we just dealing with alot of marketing hype...?

Tall

Yeah I think so to... More accurate names which keep cropping up on the web are 'designer steroids' and 'steroid precursors'

I think there is alot of stigma associated with taking steroids, which I think is to do with the stigma associated with any kind of drugs which require needles...

TinyTom

PH are such a load of bullsh*t

If they were that good then they'd be illegal

The only reason why such things get made illegal is that the FDA in the US start getting worried about kids taking them to excess to produce steroid liek results. Obviously overdosing on a product that requires liver activity to reduce them or whatever into steroids has serious health implications if used to excess.

Tall

Interestingly enough I first heard about them through an American friend of mine who was given them to 'make him stronger' when playing American Football when he was about 15...

bulldozer

I have read tonnes of threads on PH and it seems to me the sides can be worse than a simple d bol cycle.

I agree with Tom, PH are boll*cks, just use some gear !