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Old 15-09-2007, 12:22 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Big Cat on T-Nation did a similar thing with interesting results. He also used a PH Spray on his shoulders and chest which made them look huge during the use of the spray, and then the dropped off later (which indicates water retention)

Neil - will you be doing a log of your results...? I'm not planning on using but I always find things like that fascinating.

Its amazing how differnt the views are on AAS / PH/PS usage in the states compared to the uk. We all certainly have different ideas.

Will be interesting to see your results Neil, how long have you been clean for mate?

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Old 15-09-2007, 12:29 PM   #22 (permalink)
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PMSL - 'clean'
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Old 15-09-2007, 06:57 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I cleaned out just after the NABBA North-East in April, so about 5 months.
It was getting to point where their was no real challenge in using gear. As I documented in an earlier thread i can use a mildish cycle and gain 15-18 lbs quite easily. So I cleaned out to give myself a fresh challenge.

This is just a new challenge!

Monitoring wise I've just weighed myself & taken measurements. I'll also keep an eye on strength gains too.
Will do the same at the end of the 1-AD part of the cycle & again after the hyperdrol, that way I get a feeler for how each one works.

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PH are such a load of bullsh*t

If they were that good then they'd be illegal

The only reason why such things get made illegal is that the FDA in the US start getting worried about kids taking them to excess to produce steroid liek results. Obviously overdosing on a product that requires liver activity to reduce them or whatever into steroids has serious health implications if used to excess.
I couldn’t have said it better myself! I've used some of the most popular pro-hormones on the market such as Bio tests Alpha Male and Axis-HT at the highest recommended dosage and they have done very little for me in the testosterone department.

I've used the supplements for the recommended amount of time stated by the company’s and after much experimentation I’ve came to the conclusion that these supplements are simply overrated and overpriced not just by the manufacturer but by people who claim to have gained serious amounts of muscle mass on these “replacements for steroids”.

I’ve always tried to convince myself that these supplements are worth the money and I’ve used them time and time again because I’ve been told by others that I aspire to being that “perhaps you need to try another pro-hormone” or even “your testosterone levels must already be too high”. I’m not that gullible anymore, If I want to spend my hard earned cash on something it will be the real deal not a crap equivalent that doesn’t live up to the reputation that it portrays.

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Old 16-09-2007, 12:57 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I began on monday using 1-AD/1-Test, which I intend on running for 3 weeks. i will then follow this up with Hyperdrol, which is supposed to be non-toxic and not requiring any PCT, which will be run for about 2 months.
Neil - following your 3 weeks on 1-AD/1-Test are you using the 8 weeks of HyperDrol to replace PCT are would be required when running a course of PS/PH...?

Which if I have my facts right would mean you should keep all of your gains and experience little or no shutdown...?
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Neil - following your 3 weeks on 1-AD/1-Test are you using the 8 weeks of HyperDrol to replace PCT ...
No, I'm giving the HyperdrolX2 a try just to see what happens.
I have some AromX to use as PCT...which is AMS version of Novadex XT

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Which if I have my facts right would mean you should keep all of your gains and experience little or no shutdown...?
Here's hoping!

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this should be interesting. I bet ur not expecting too much though neil. What dosages are you running with these PHs??
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Doses are
1-AD 2 caps/day first 6 days
3 caps/day for next 15 days, then
HyperdrolX2 4 caps per day for 60 days.

Not sure what to expect from the 1-AD, but with the HDx2 most users are getting a 5-10lb gain in a month, so that could give a 10-20lb gain in the 2 months i'm using it. But i won't hold my breath .
As I said, it's an experiment, so no expectations really.

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Neil - where did you read about the 5-10lbgain per month?

I'd read it was a 5-10lb LBM gain over 12weeks with a reduction in fat of 3-6lbs over the same period (I think that was on their site...)

It will certainly be interesting either way.
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Scrolling through various forums where people have run 4 week cycles of HDx2. Most reported a difference in bodyweight post/pre cycle ranging from 5lb (least) to 10lbs(highest).

I opted to scan forums, as opposed to the marketing hype, to try guage a more accurate 'real-life' result expectation.

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