Pro Hormone Question

**Tall** · 13-09-2007, 04:02 PM

Not planning using... Just topping up my knowledge levels...

**Tall** · 14-09-2007, 10:11 AM

Thought I'd post these here as I had some random thoughts whilst brushing my teeth this morning...

Is testicular atrophy only counteracted during pct...? And by that I mean is testicular atrophy required in order for a cycle to work...?

I know taking something like nolva all the way through any given cycle will reduce the amount of estrogen aromatisation to reduce the possibility of getting gyno, and that HCG can reduce any atrophy caused while on cycle, but am I right in thinking some people are now taking it during cycle...?

bulldozer · 14-09-2007, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TallHeavyAndSkinny

Is testicular atrophy only counteracted during pct...? And by that I mean is testicular atrophy required in order for a cycle to work...?

I know taking something like nolva all the way through any given cycle will reduce the amount of estrogen aromatisation to reduce the possibility of getting gyno, and that HCG can reduce any atrophy caused while on cycle, but am I right in thinking some people are now taking it during cycle...?

Yes hcg is run throughout most people's cycles mate. Especially heavier cycles.

**Tall** · 14-09-2007, 10:28 AM

So testicular atrophy isn't required for a successful cycle bow that HCG is available...?

But the shutdown of natural test production is required...?

bulldozer · 14-09-2007, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TallHeavyAndSkinny

So testicular atrophy isn't required for a successful cycle bow that HCG is available...?

But the shutdown of natural test production is required...?

Dude your really asking the wrong person here lol.

Atrophy is a side effect of your body shutting down natural test. So no its not required for a successful cycle no.

Shutdown of natural test is again a side effect, because you have injected yourself with test the body shuts its natural production down. So its not required, its a side effect

**Tall** · 14-09-2007, 10:38 AM

Sorry mate it wasn't directly directed at you

mrhulahoop · 14-09-2007, 07:03 PM

Not required it just happens for obvious reasons.

**Tall** · 14-09-2007, 07:23 PM

(Hula am I right in thinking you have run a PH cycle in the past...?)

**Neil R** · 15-09-2007, 10:22 AM

Interesting opinions on Pro-hormones/Pro-steroids here.

I myself have been investigating the claims made by some of the PH/PS users, and so have decided to run an experiment to see just how useful they are.
As a past 'Gear' user, I have, this week, begun a PH/PS cycle to see how they fair against 'the real thing'.
I began on monday using 1-AD/1-Test, which I intend on running for 3 weeks. i will then follow this up with Hyperdrol, which is supposed to be non-toxic and not requiring any PCT, which will be run for about 2 months.

Not doing this for any other reason than to appease my own inquisitiveness.
We'll see how the experiment works

....So far, I am open minded!!

**Tall** · 15-09-2007, 12:16 PM

Big Cat on T-Nation did a similar thing with interesting results. He also used a PH Spray on his shoulders and chest which made them look huge during the use of the spray, and then the dropped off later (which indicates water retention)

Neil - will you be doing a log of your results...? I'm not planning on using but I always find things like that fascinating.

13-09-2007, 04:02 PM	#11 (permalink)
Tall Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The White House. But I'm moving soon. Posts: 2,356 Rep Power:	Re: Pro Hormone Question Not planning using... Just topping up my knowledge levels...

14-09-2007, 10:11 AM	#12 (permalink)
Tall Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The White House. But I'm moving soon. Posts: 2,356 Rep Power:	Re: Pro Hormone Question Thought I'd post these here as I had some random thoughts whilst brushing my teeth this morning... Is testicular atrophy only counteracted during pct...? And by that I mean is testicular atrophy required in order for a cycle to work...? I know taking something like nolva all the way through any given cycle will reduce the amount of estrogen aromatisation to reduce the possibility of getting gyno, and that HCG can reduce any atrophy caused while on cycle, but am I right in thinking some people are now taking it during cycle...?

14-09-2007, 10:28 AM	#14 (permalink)
Tall Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The White House. But I'm moving soon. Posts: 2,356 Rep Power:	Re: Pro Hormone Question So testicular atrophy isn't required for a successful cycle bow that HCG is available...? But the shutdown of natural test production is required...?

14-09-2007, 10:38 AM	#16 (permalink)
Tall Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The White House. But I'm moving soon. Posts: 2,356 Rep Power:	Re: Pro Hormone Question Sorry mate it wasn't directly directed at you

14-09-2007, 07:03 PM	#17 (permalink)
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14-09-2007, 07:23 PM	#18 (permalink)
Tall Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The White House. But I'm moving soon. Posts: 2,356 Rep Power:	Re: Pro Hormone Question (Hula am I right in thinking you have run a PH cycle in the past...?)

15-09-2007, 10:22 AM	#19 (permalink)
Neil R Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 614 Rep Power:	Re: Pro Hormone Question Interesting opinions on Pro-hormones/Pro-steroids here. I myself have been investigating the claims made by some of the PH/PS users, and so have decided to run an experiment to see just how useful they are. As a past 'Gear' user, I have, this week, begun a PH/PS cycle to see how they fair against 'the real thing'. I began on monday using 1-AD/1-Test, which I intend on running for 3 weeks. i will then follow this up with Hyperdrol, which is supposed to be non-toxic and not requiring any PCT, which will be run for about 2 months. Not doing this for any other reason than to appease my own inquisitiveness. We'll see how the experiment works ....So far, I am open minded!! ______________________ APPLIED KNOWLEDGE, IS POWER!!! The real challenge is to be yourself in a world that wants you to be someone else!!

15-09-2007, 12:16 PM	#20 (permalink)
Tall Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The White House. But I'm moving soon. Posts: 2,356 Rep Power:	Re: Pro Hormone Question Big Cat on T-Nation did a similar thing with interesting results. He also used a PH Spray on his shoulders and chest which made them look huge during the use of the spray, and then the dropped off later (which indicates water retention) Neil - will you be doing a log of your results...? I'm not planning on using but I always find things like that fascinating.

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