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Old 21-08-2007, 06:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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he everyone, i want to ask you if i can stack phera (p-plex) and ostaran e
i was brutally assaulted in feb of 05 and in the hospital for 9 months. i've been doin rehab for 2 years. i've just been given the go ahead to start liftin weights again. i have muscle atrophy. cause of that i'm looking to get some of my muscle back. i don't wanna swell up . i just want to be able to function properly again. i've read that p plex bulks you up and gives you a little water retention and ostaran e is more of a cutter you use before like a competion. it cuts you and it bulks you a little bit. which one is better for me to take. can i stack them. i would get the bulk up factor and the cut factor together. i can't take any protein , creatine, or glutamine cause the glutamine , which is in all of the products, blocks AED'S (anti-epileptic drugs) , so they don't work. since my assault i am now epileptic. i got a brain injury and of course i'm checking with my dr. before i take any of these. i'm just looking to get back some of what i had. not looking to swell up. thanks for any help , very much appreciated.

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hiya mate, my choice is always going to be creatine over any pro hormone, why not try usn nitro force is worked really well for me, creatine is probably the most tested and talked about supplement if bodybuilding and you know its going to work, try it for a cpl of months and i bet you will feel better when you train.
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Old 18-10-2007, 03:24 AM   #3 (permalink)
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"i can't take any protein" stopped reading after that, do a little research mate on protein and what it does for the body then rethink.
By the way how long u stopped eating? know wonder you have muscle atrophy.
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HiMate

U seem a complicated case, i dont think we are medically qualified to assist u regarding the effects of protein etc on epileptic drugs. U need protein to function and live mate, so is a necessity, i would go to ur GP or a sports doctor for more info.

Hope all works out for u

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. i can't take any protein , creatine, or glutamine cause the glutamine , which is in all of the products, blocks AED'S (anti-epileptic drugs) , so they don't work.
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Don't know where you got this info from, but AED's that are prescribed are anti-convulsants. If they were to negatively interact with Glutamine then they wouldn't be available due to the fact that 50% of the aminos in your blood is glutamine (due to glutamine & BCAA's being the aminos oxidised for energy use), this would mean that every single person taking the drug would have an adverse reaction. The main interactors with AED drugs are as follows:-

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Acetaminophen, alprazolam, amitriptyline, bupropion, buspirone, citalopram, clobazam, clonazepam, clozapine, cyclosporin, delavirdine, desipramine, diazepam, dicumarol, doxycycline, ethosuximide, felbamate, felodipine, glucocorticoids, haloperidol, itraconazole, lamotrigine, levothyroxine, lorazepam, methadone, midazolam, mirtazapine, nortriptyline, olanzapine, oral contraceptives(3), oxcarbazepine, phenytoin(4), praziquantel, protease inhibitors, quetiapine, risperidone, theophylline, topiramate, tiagabine, tramadol, triazolam, trazodone(5), valproate, warfarin(6), ziprasidone, and zonisamide.



If you honestly believe you cannot take protein, creatine or glutamine based supplements theirs no way in hell that you should even think of pro-hormones!

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