M1t

british beef

i have a couple of bottles of M1T left and they have gone past their sell-by-date. one bottle smells off so ive chucked them but the other one seems ok. would it be ok to take them? i have used them before but pct was bad so lost all gains and more! so going to use nolva this time!!
also would it be best to run them for 3-4 weeks solid or 2 weeks on 2 weeks off with test booster on the off week? or would this be too harsh on the liver?

any help would be appreiciated!

p.s what do people think of M1T in general coz there is some debate weather it is really any good or not!!

mrhulahoop

I experienced huge water retention from it. Massive weight gain whilst on it which all got wee'ed out. Gained a few pounds of stable weight from it though. If you have access to other stuff Id use that instead, because M1t is harsh so you may as well use proper gear and get better results with less of the harsh sides. If your going to use oral steroids you may as well use dianabol instead of M1t in my opinion.

I did two weeks on two weeks off with a test booster in between. Ive still got some left but wont be using it because of the above reasons.

crazycal1

just a thought,but maybe you didnt retain the added poundage cos of your training and or diet.
i`m not talking the water weight cos i dont count that.
i`ve kept all my gains from oral cycles and i usually have planned rest periods a month or so after cycle.
(first cycle knowing what i do now pct wasnt great at all)
btw i`m not a diet junkie and just eat clean most of the time!

einsteins mind was the key to all things...to understand more than to know.

www.extremenutrition.co.uk

mrhulahoop

........I retained most the of actual muscle gains as far as I can gather...but I put on half a stone in 6 days....it has to be mostly water, and thats the weight I lost (thats my reconing anyhow....tell me if you disagree) Ive managed to keep some ok gains from it though. Other lads Ive spoken to who have tried it have reported lots of water retention as well.

british beef

when i used it before a gained about half a stone but i realise that pct wasnt good so i lost it all and was actually weaker than before i started my cycle. think i might try low dose dbol cycle next and see how that goes!

igulp

i actually can't remember what i gained on this, i think i took it for 3 weeks max but as i upped the dose i started to react badly - bloated like my liver was really complaining & feeling like poop. i know my strength went up nicely but like i said, can't remember gains, think they werent permanent though.

crazycal1

apologies for hammering the point home
but i dont think bad pct is the reason you all didnt keep gains(talking small oral cycle here)

einsteins mind was the key to all things...to understand more than to know.

www.extremenutrition.co.uk

Ruggerbugger

If you're going to run it, run it for 3-4 weeks straight (providing you body can take it). Run every liver support supplement you can find! NAC, milk thistle etc... M1T is brutal on your liver, when I took it I felt like shit after just a week.

Personally, I'd ditch it and get another oral steroid (M1T is NOT a prohormone, it is a steroid). Drol and Dbol would give you bigger gains and although they're also brutal on your liver they'ne certainly no worse than M1T. Alternatively, look at Anavar. You can safely run it for 12 weeks and it won't shut your natural test production down so you won't need PCT. Its also mild on your liver by oral steroid standards.

british beef

yeah was thinking of dbol. anvar works out quite expensive i found. what do you think of oral winny?

Ruggerbugger

Depends on your goals. I play rugby so I can't afford to take winny due to the damage it does to tendons and ligaments. One of the other guys can probably give you better advice on it. I like Var though, not great for size gains but good for improving strength. It is pricey, but you save a bit in not needing to buy stuff for PCT.