whats the best pro-hormone out at the min

razg · 21-03-2006, 10:40 AM

Had a liver enzyme panel done recently?

M1T is extraordinarily toxic, our old moderator redspy refers to it as "rat poison", and i'd be inclined to agree. On top of that the majority of people have a lot of bad sides on it.

I agree with YG in that a low dose sensible steroid cycle is a much better option - PH/PS are just loopholes in the law, they are untried and untested - people have been using testosterone/methandrostenolone for years, and while they are not benign chemicals, the side effects both in the short and long term are well documented.

Tha Don · 21-03-2006, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Comando Tom

Theres not really alot of Pro-Hormones out (all banned), you will only find them on ebay like M1T, 4AD.

Designer Steroids are the new thing out, superdrol pheraplex, max lmg, ergo max lmg, haladrol 50.

FYI m1t is most definately a steroid

Tha Don · 21-03-2006, 11:23 AM

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M1T is extraordinarily toxic, our old moderator redspy refers to it as "rat poison", and i'd be inclined to agree. On top of that the majority of people have a lot of bad sides on it.

he'll also tell you how it is several times more anabolic/androgenic than dianabol, its some strong stuff, many bros that have used it rate it well, i know PFH rates the stuff, but it (obviously) dosen't come without some harsh side effects

Tha Don · 21-03-2006, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by stone14

whats the best pro hormone out at the min?

1test, make a transdermal and stack with some test

in terms of gains SD and m1t are 2 of the most powerful orals ever, however very harsh sides as already mentioned numerous times in this thread

md2/ergomax lmg is apparently a good product, CHUKS have some awesome deals on md2 right now, phera-plex has also been getting plenty of good feedback over the pond

i still think 1test is a great product, prefered it to dbol anyway, good steady gains, no where near as many side effects

willus72 · 22-03-2006, 05:49 AM

i agree a real cycle would be preferable to the ph/ps cycle but that is what was asked so i thought id share my experience. I used m1t when it first got big and didnt know too much about it. I never had my enzymes checked but I did notice strong cramps in that region at times, I spoke to a doctor about it and he said to drink more water, which really seemed to help. So Im sure it was beating the hell out of my liver. I ended up stopping it and finishing with test prop which I liked even better. I didnt stop for any particular reason though. I just got my hands on the prop and wanted to try it. As I said before I enjoyed the m1t and would do it again, but I do strongly agree that it is, as well as many of the ph/ps out there, very harsh on the liver. Again I agree that a real cycle would be best if it is an option. If you do decide to go the ph/ps route, or any oral for that matter, I would strongly recommend some liver support such as milk thistle or such, and keep well hydrated.

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21-03-2006, 10:40 AM	#11 (permalink)
razg Legend Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Birmingham/Bristol Posts: 887 Rep Power:	Had a liver enzyme panel done recently? M1T is extraordinarily toxic, our old moderator redspy refers to it as "rat poison", and i'd be inclined to agree. On top of that the majority of people have a lot of bad sides on it. I agree with YG in that a low dose sensible steroid cycle is a much better option - PH/PS are just loopholes in the law, they are untried and untested - people have been using testosterone/methandrostenolone for years, and while they are not benign chemicals, the side effects both in the short and long term are well documented.

22-03-2006, 05:49 AM	#15 (permalink)
willus72 Under Construction Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10 Rep Power:	i agree a real cycle would be preferable to the ph/ps cycle but that is what was asked so i thought id share my experience. I used m1t when it first got big and didnt know too much about it. I never had my enzymes checked but I did notice strong cramps in that region at times, I spoke to a doctor about it and he said to drink more water, which really seemed to help. So Im sure it was beating the hell out of my liver. I ended up stopping it and finishing with test prop which I liked even better. I didnt stop for any particular reason though. I just got my hands on the prop and wanted to try it. As I said before I enjoyed the m1t and would do it again, but I do strongly agree that it is, as well as many of the ph/ps out there, very harsh on the liver. Again I agree that a real cycle would be best if it is an option. If you do decide to go the ph/ps route, or any oral for that matter, I would strongly recommend some liver support such as milk thistle or such, and keep well hydrated.