Superdrol.... Yes or NO?

Andy1981iron · 14-02-2006, 03:16 PM

250mg a week wouldn't be much more than your natural test production, i'd go with 300-500mg a week.

I'd also try to get your bf down to around the 15% mark before starting an AAS cycle.

SoulCard · 14-02-2006, 03:18 PM

i agree with above, prohormones are more harmful on you body than 500mg of test for 12 weeks would be...follow with pct and your G.T.G....and depending on your current BF, you may want to bring it down first, but that also depends on your current goals...

chalk · 14-02-2006, 03:25 PM

great advice. Thanks!

Looks like test e is the best way to go. Now to work on finding some real stuff! Anyway, thats for a different forum!

Andy1981iron · 14-02-2006, 04:13 PM

Sides become more apparent if bf is much above 15%, that's why I said it would be good to reduce it a little.

chalk · 14-02-2006, 11:19 PM

looks like I need to start on some cardio!! But why would having a higher BF increase the risk of sides?

Is it me, or does everyone hate seeing the weight go down on the scales?
I guess it's ok if your 18- 19 stone!!

razg · 15-02-2006, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by andy1981iron

250mg a week wouldn't be much more than your natural test production, i'd go with 300-500mg a week.

I'd also try to get your bf down to around the 15% mark before starting an AAS cycle.

Uh uh. A healthy male produces between 5-11mg of Testosterone daily last time I checked - that's 35-77mg/week.

250mg/week is a perfectly good starting point.

SoulCard · 15-02-2006, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by razg

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy1981iron

250mg a week wouldn't be much more than your natural test production, i'd go with 300-500mg a week.

I'd also try to get your bf down to around the 15% mark before starting an AAS cycle.

Uh uh. A healthy male produces between 5-11mg of Testosterone daily last time I checked - that's 35-77mg/week.

250mg/week is a perfectly good starting point.

...while raz is correct, the 200-250 range is generally prescribed for HRT...the general base dose for substantial gains is understood to be 500 mg/week...

razg · 15-02-2006, 01:56 AM

With all due respect bro:

200mg/2 weeks is on the top end of prescribed TRT doses. Generally Transdermal patches or Androgel are used depending on requirements.

IMO there's no point starting with a higher dosage than what is needed - the key to making (and keeping) these gains is ultimately down to diet, training, and PCT - not taking twice as much Test as is really needed.

SoulCard · 15-02-2006, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by razg

With all due respect bro:

200mg/2 weeks is on the top end of prescribed TRT doses. True Generally Transdermal patches or Androgel are used depending on requirements....often, but now always...some guys get Test E and/or cyp for thier HRT

IMO there's no point starting with a higher dosage than what is needed - the key to making (and keeping) these gains is ultimately down to diet, training, and PCT - not taking twice as much Test as is really needed.

...agreed, with limitations...

Nick500 · 15-02-2006, 11:08 AM

razg your right, but if you can gain say 15 lbs on 500mg/wk or 10lbs on 250mg/wk with no increased noticeable sideeffects by doing the 500, then your gonna choose the 500 aren't you. I agree that starting with like 1000 is ridiculous, i'm not a fan of more is better on the whole, but no point in under-dosing.

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14-02-2006, 03:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
Andy1981iron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hull Posts: 833 Rep Power:	250mg a week wouldn't be much more than your natural test production, i'd go with 300-500mg a week. I'd also try to get your bf down to around the 15% mark before starting an AAS cycle.

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chalk Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Spain Posts: 262 Rep Power:	great advice. Thanks! Looks like test e is the best way to go. Now to work on finding some real stuff! Anyway, thats for a different forum!

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Andy1981iron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hull Posts: 833 Rep Power:	Sides become more apparent if bf is much above 15%, that's why I said it would be good to reduce it a little.

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chalk Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Spain Posts: 262 Rep Power:	looks like I need to start on some cardio!! But why would having a higher BF increase the risk of sides? Is it me, or does everyone hate seeing the weight go down on the scales? I guess it's ok if your 18- 19 stone!!

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razg Legend Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Birmingham/Bristol Posts: 887 Rep Power:	With all due respect bro: 200mg/2 weeks is on the top end of prescribed TRT doses. Generally Transdermal patches or Androgel are used depending on requirements. IMO there's no point starting with a higher dosage than what is needed - the key to making (and keeping) these gains is ultimately down to diet, training, and PCT - not taking twice as much Test as is really needed.