PH Virgin

Rock Ape

Hey guys,

As you might've guessed by the title, I haven't tried PH's yet but I am looking to learn a bit with a view to having a go soon.

From what I've read here, M1T is a non starter (for first cycle at least), but 1AD and 4AD would seem a good place to start.

Can some of you more knowledgeable guys advise on dosages? to give an overview of me, I'm about 5'6" and currently weigh in at 14 stone, haven't measured my bf for a while but definitely too high, would say high teens. I've trained inconsistently for a few years but have been consistent for about 6 months now. Also, can you still get hold of PH's in the UK? (Maybe a naive question know).

Also, what PCT should be taken? Is 6oxo and trib adequate? Are there any supps I shouldn't take while taking PH's? And should I avoid alcohol while using them?

I'd appreciate your advise.

Thanks guys.

Anonymous

i'd recommend S1+ (transdermal mix of 1-test and 4ad), you can buy 3 bottles from myself which will be enough for a 6 week cycle

i also have m1t, md and big 1 for sale if interested, but i know s1+ is sold out everywhere now and stocks are not gonna be getting replaced, i think 1ad is also sold out everywhere now as well

i'd recommend all the usual supps on PH's, multi-vit, ALA, EFA's, glutamine, taurine, plenty of whey

for PCT go with tamoxifen, 40/40/20/20 should work well, i'm also gonna be taking vitex, trib and milk thistle on my PCT from 1ad (although they are probably not all necessary on something mild like 1ad, would be pretty essential for m1t though)

and NO alcohol on PH's, alcohol is the worst thing would can have regardless of being on PH or not and it prevent protein sythesis in the muscles (meaning you can't utilize protein for growth and repair for upto 48hours if you consume alcohol), its even worse on PH as you'll be increasing the risks of liver damage, its just not worth it... and also your more likely to pull a nasty bird with them drinking goggles on, i never touch alcohol ever! just a big waste of money, time and effort, if you want a drug to really boost your confidence 24/7 and give you great gains in the gym then save up for juice now that is worth every penny! but PH are a good place to start

tom84

Listen To G on this man he really knows his shit. Just to add no u cant get ph's anywhere really now a few of the UK websites have little stock left but it would be difficult.

Ive got quite a few I wanna sell on and i know Godfather has quite a few. Just to point u in the right direction for your research S1+,1AD,4AD,Superdrol, M1T,19 nor .But yeah 1AD,4AD cycle would be a good place to start. Depending on the cycle u decide 6oxo might be enough but your safer with nolva anyway.

Let us know wat u decide to do sure we can help u out. Plus look at mine and godfathers ph cycle logs in this section bcoz we list all supps at the start.

Take it easy man.

Benji

I don't see why you shouldn't be able to use M1T for a first cycle, I know people say you shouldn't ... but I see no real justified reason for this anyone care to explain?

tom84

very simply bcoz of how ridiculously hard its shuts u down and how bad the sideies are. Without knowing how prone u will be to the sides of ph's it wouldnt be a great idea to do the strongest one. Plus theres no way u would be disciplined enough on your first cycle to do M1T would be an unecessary health risk and a waste as u well know having done it way too young and not training properly whilst u were on it.
just outta interest what was ure pct for ure M1T cycle and what supps did u run whilst on it.

Anonymous

this depends on the individual doing the cycle, and how serious they are about bodybuilding.

tom84

yeah i guess but does seem that alot of ppl jump into ph's not really knowing what their doing not knowing about pct and not understanding the effects on your body. M1T would just be a ridiculous place to start in this circumstance plus u would still need to check how prone u were to the sidies from this stuff.

It would be like taking someone who thinks they might be afraid of heights to the top of the empire state building as a pose to the roof of your house. (Wow thats a shit ananlogy but u get my point)

Rock Ape

Thanks guys, it's certainly interesting to read different peoples opinion of M1T. Think I'll start with something less powerful and gauge how my body responds.

S1+ sounds promising and you certainly seem to know your stuff godfather! How much would 3 bottles of your finest set me back?

Anonymous

well i'm selling the S1+ for 23 per bottle but if you want 3 i'll do the lot for 60, i payed a lot more for em

jackamo

anyone thing trying phs before rhoids is beter ?