The Godfathers' first ever PH cycle (1-AD & 4-AD)

Anonymous

okay, after many months of reading and research on all pro-hormones, pro-steroids and even a fair bit on juice i've decided to run the following as my first EVER! anabolic cycle:

1-AD (by ergopharm) - 400mg/ed for 6 weeks, split in to 4 100mg doseages (breakfast, before wo, post wo and bedtime)

4-AD (4derm by dermabolics) - 2-3 sprays (2/3 of the normal dose) twice a day for 6 weeks, applied before breakfast and after shower post workout

i'm currently at 83kg (183lbs), 14% BF - (taken this morning) put on a good 1-2% BF over the holiday season but i'll worry about shifting that later!

i'd like to put on 15lbs on this (during) cycle, and be able to keep 10lbs of it, all lean BTW, i'm thinking of getting some clen and maybe running it PCT if i put on a lot of fat but i really doubt i'll put on much fat so i'll probably leave that till the summer time

my PCT will be tamoxifen citrate and dose will be as follows:
weeks 1 + 2 - 40mg/ed
weeks 3 + 4 - 20mg/ed

other supplements i'll be running while 'on' include:
- ala
- glutamine
- multi vit
- vit. B complex
- fish oils
- zma

pct supps will be all of the above, plus:
- creatine ethyl ester
- milk thistle
- saw palmetto
- vitex
- tribulus


as far as my training goes... while 'on' i will train relatively high volume, hitting all bodyparts 1-2 times a week, probably use supersets every 2nd or 3rd week to mix things up, regular lifting will be 4-5 sets per exercise (last 2 sets to failiure) i'll try and hit the gym every day apart from sundays, for PCT i will drop the volume and go high intensity, 1-2 sets per exercise beyond failiure, i've read this is the best way to train (on - high volume, pct - low volume)

if anyone can think of anything i've missed or anything i should change let me know, as far as i know my cycle looks good for a 1st cycle and i can't wait to get this going, i aim to start in around 3 weeks time

peace

tom84

looks good mate as far as I know althou u know more about this than I do. Ive been told to run saw palmetto over the complete cycle as a pose to just pct is the only thing i can think of. Also researched a little bit into six week cycles at our age after your suggestion. u were definately right that some dont show til 3 or 4 weeks however read that at our age maybe shutting natural test production down for 6 weeks is probably nt a great idea just a thought, but u obviously know what your doing and im sure ure gains will be great from the cycle.

Personally im gonna run for four weeks and if im happy at the end of those 4 weeks (if ive put on 8 - 10 pounds) then im gona stop. To make sure I do this im gona train and diet like never b4 bcoz ideally i dont really wana be on 4 6 weeks even though i realize the gains would be much better.

David owner of the House of Juice gave me a great source for nolva and clen if u havent picked this up already .28 quid for 100 clen 20mcg and 30 nolva 20mg pm me or im sure Davis would give it to u if ure interested . Id do the clen it cant hurt and for the price is well worth it.

oh and lastly great to see such an educated approach and thanx for all ure help with my cycle. Reckon if we r gona do this gotta do it right. I ws reading some posts on other sites of ppl who were taking 1 ad at the moment and 1 dude asked ' seen as 1ad converts to 1 test and 1 test is technically not a prohormone i dont need any tribulus or this oxo thingy when i take it do I' WTF!!!!! the guy was 18 aswel.

Anyway best of luck mate and in 10 short weeks take ure new huge version of ureself down to ure Uni bar and get ****in leathered let me know how it goes

Anonymous

you gonna do some before and after progress pics godfather?

it would be good for the board

Anonymous

i hear ya man, shit like that really pisses me off, dumbasses like that are the reason why government is banning these things, guys with no knowledge of what the hell they are taking! and no where near ready to be taking them! on my main forum i get kids (like 15 and 16 year olds) asking me if it is okay to take andro, and its sad coz even though you tell em not to you know they are still gonna run it, so i give up wid em!

yeah and getting laid EVERY nite! (another reason i NEED the 4-ad, i can't be goin without sex for 2 months), i'm looking forward to all the attention the girls are gonna give me and my big muscles! hahaha

its all gd! i don't think i've ever been this excited at the end of an xmas holiday before! its crazy! :?

anyways thanks for the support bro, i'll let you know how things go


peace

Anonymous

sure man, i'll definately try n' get some done

peace

tom84

here u with that one the main reason i considered 4ad uni with no sex 4 2 months is gonna be like old trafford with no football

GettinSwole

Godfather, looks well thought out man... No real suggestions, other than I myself would run higher doses. I'd run 600mg of both, but it seems you know what you want to get out of this and you've got the discipline to get it done.
Best of luck and hopefully we'll see ya 15lbs heavier in about 8 weeks.

Anonymous

thanks swole

yeah if it wasn't my first cycle i'd definately go with a higher dose, i've given a lot of thought to going higher but i reckon its better to start off low and see how i get on

i'll keep you updated on things bro

peace