Are there any safe pro hormones for under 21

tom84 · 10-12-2004, 12:20 AM

Anyway bit about me im 20 5, 9 11 stone 9

By safe I mean no long term hormonal effects. Liver problems I realise can be combated with milk thistle etc headaches and insomnia etc wel there only temporary so whatever. Really wanna do prohormones but dont want to run any risk of long term effects and i dont really know much about this. And im the kinda person that if im gonna do this gonna do it properly and as safely as I can. Been reading up as much as I can. Also think i get confused between oral anabolics steroids and prohormones. Was looking at avanar seems the safest by far, but also ineffective on its own.(not sure if this is accurate)

Ordered some M1T for future use in maybe a few years bcoz im only 20 and unsure if ive finished fully growing.

Anyway can somebody PLEASE point me in the right direction ie websites or advice or anything thanx as always hopefully soon il answer other ppls questions and not just post millions of my own

Maybe il just spend all my time in the begginners section telling every1 to eat protein every 3 hours might feel better about myself lol

oh and been looking on pharmaeurope.com some articles i thought were really helpful but probably not 4 any1 experienced in stuff like this just kinda gave me an idea.

GettinSwole · 10-12-2004, 03:23 AM

There are none that will be safe for you if your growth plates have not closed. They are pro-HORMONES, so they all have hormonal effects. One of those is the closing of growth plates. The steroids you need to be taking right now are protein, carbs, fat, and esterified creatine.

tom84 · 10-12-2004, 11:54 AM

cool thanx man thought so

Anonymous · 10-12-2004, 02:08 PM

esterified creatine??

i dont no what the esterified bit means?

cheers

jackamo · 10-12-2004, 03:50 PM

did some reaserch its the americans version of us brits version of capture creatine (the purest creatine u can get basicaly). I only use creatine wiv the capture assertified on it.

Anonymous · 10-12-2004, 05:17 PM

esterified creatine = creatine ethyl ester i think

i agree with gettinswoles advice, only reason i'm going to be running PH's in the new year is because I plateued ages ago and i know that i'm 110% ready to do this! I first considered PH's 2 years ago and decided against them as I was not ready and I had very little knowledge, i've spent the last year researching and giving serious thought to it and for me its now or never, bascially if i don't do PH's i might as well stop now, because i'm fed up of the huge food bills, huge supplement bills, busting my ass off 5 days a week all for nothing

until you reach a similar stage its best to muscle up as much as possible naturally first and use the PH's/juice to put on the finishing touches to an already great physique

you might want to run another PH before the m1t just due to the strength of the m1t, i'm going to be running 1ad and s1+ cycles 1st, might be worth getting 1 of them and saving it too, they should both keep a year or so and then m1t keeps till 2007 i think! so no rush

peace

meathead1987 · 21-12-2004, 01:47 PM

There are no safe PH. If you must use an anabolic, choose Anavar.

A warning though, an effective dose will cost ~10 a day

tom84 · 22-12-2004, 03:10 PM

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ids/1adx.html

can someone have a look at this 4 me to let me know what u think. Its IDS 1AD EXTREME. Health warning only 4 under 18's and less harsh health warnings than on other brands of 1ad in general, was just wondering y.

Also godfather whats 's1+' and which brand of 1ad r u gonna use cheers bro.

tom84 · 22-12-2004, 10:17 PM

oh steve sorry man didnt ask is it ok if i post this bcoz its a link to a product on another site. Delete it if its not

cheers

10-12-2004, 12:20 AM	#1 (permalink)
tom84 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Manchester Posts: 329 Rep Power:	Are there any safe pro hormones for under 21 Anyway bit about me im 20 5, 9 11 stone 9 By safe I mean no long term hormonal effects. Liver problems I realise can be combated with milk thistle etc headaches and insomnia etc wel there only temporary so whatever. Really wanna do prohormones but dont want to run any risk of long term effects and i dont really know much about this. And im the kinda person that if im gonna do this gonna do it properly and as safely as I can. Been reading up as much as I can. Also think i get confused between oral anabolics steroids and prohormones. Was looking at avanar seems the safest by far, but also ineffective on its own.(not sure if this is accurate) Ordered some M1T for future use in maybe a few years bcoz im only 20 and unsure if ive finished fully growing. Anyway can somebody PLEASE point me in the right direction ie websites or advice or anything thanx as always hopefully soon il answer other ppls questions and not just post millions of my own Maybe il just spend all my time in the begginners section telling every1 to eat protein every 3 hours might feel better about myself lol oh and been looking on pharmaeurope.com some articles i thought were really helpful but probably not 4 any1 experienced in stuff like this just kinda gave me an idea.

10-12-2004, 03:23 AM	#2 (permalink)
GettinSwole Making Progress Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: USA Posts: 372 Rep Power:	There are none that will be safe for you if your growth plates have not closed. They are pro-HORMONES, so they all have hormonal effects. One of those is the closing of growth plates. The steroids you need to be taking right now are protein, carbs, fat, and esterified creatine. ______________________ thricefan@cyber-rights.net You have to do what others won't to achieve what others don't.

10-12-2004, 11:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
tom84 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Manchester Posts: 329 Rep Power:	cool thanx man thought so ______________________ In This country you gotta make the money 1st, then when u get the money, u get the power, then when u get the power, u get the woman.

10-12-2004, 03:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
jackamo Making Progress Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 430 Rep Power:	did some reaserch its the americans version of us brits version of capture creatine (the purest creatine u can get basicaly). I only use creatine wiv the capture assertified on it. ______________________ FEEL THE PAIN OR GO HOME!!!!

22-12-2004, 03:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
tom84 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Manchester Posts: 329 Rep Power:	http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ids/1adx.html can someone have a look at this 4 me to let me know what u think. Its IDS 1AD EXTREME. Health warning only 4 under 18's and less harsh health warnings than on other brands of 1ad in general, was just wondering y. Also godfather whats 's1+' and which brand of 1ad r u gonna use cheers bro. ______________________ In This country you gotta make the money 1st, then when u get the money, u get the power, then when u get the power, u get the woman.

10-12-2004, 02:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	esterified creatine?? i dont no what the esterified bit means? cheers

10-12-2004, 05:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	esterified creatine = creatine ethyl ester i think i agree with gettinswoles advice, only reason i'm going to be running PH's in the new year is because I plateued ages ago and i know that i'm 110% ready to do this! I first considered PH's 2 years ago and decided against them as I was not ready and I had very little knowledge, i've spent the last year researching and giving serious thought to it and for me its now or never, bascially if i don't do PH's i might as well stop now, because i'm fed up of the huge food bills, huge supplement bills, busting my ass off 5 days a week all for nothing until you reach a similar stage its best to muscle up as much as possible naturally first and use the PH's/juice to put on the finishing touches to an already great physique you might want to run another PH before the m1t just due to the strength of the m1t, i'm going to be running 1ad and s1+ cycles 1st, might be worth getting 1 of them and saving it too, they should both keep a year or so and then m1t keeps till 2007 i think! so no rush peace

21-12-2004, 01:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
meathead1987 Making Progress Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 260 Rep Power:	There are no safe PH. If you must use an anabolic, choose Anavar. A warning though, an effective dose will cost ~10 a day

22-12-2004, 10:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
tom84 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Manchester Posts: 329 Rep Power:	oh steve sorry man didnt ask is it ok if i post this bcoz its a link to a product on another site. Delete it if its not cheers ______________________ In This country you gotta make the money 1st, then when u get the money, u get the power, then when u get the power, u get the woman.

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