prohorme or roid

toothpic · 24-11-2004, 04:12 PM

guys,

i know this has probably been asked lots of times..but here goes.

Been looking at the site related to prohormones and seems interesting.
Since i come from OZ and they don't have much prohormones i havn't had time to deal or read about them.

Just wondering if anyone here has used both roid cycles and prohorm cycles and what results they have had and which they would prefer..

I have done a number of cycles back at home with real good results.
Im hoping in trying prohormones to see what results i can get..basically im looking to put on some lean mass on.
Something i would use if it was gear would be stacking winny,eq, test.. hopefully some sort of prohormone stack will give similar results..

hope that makes sense.

zx9rjas · 24-11-2004, 06:26 PM

I have tried mag 10 by biotest which is a great pro hormone. It contains two androgens A1-E and 4-AD-EC.

It is so good that biotest have been told to stop making it but you can still get it. It was about 100 for a two week cycle but I have seen it going for 45 from here

http://www.serumzone.co.uk/

I easily moved from 15 to 16 stone with it.

J

Anonymous · 24-11-2004, 09:46 PM

what about mit? this stuff is quite strong

toothpic · 25-11-2004, 11:26 AM

2week cycle only, that seems short, How long would an average cycle running pro-horm be run for?

zx9rjas · 25-11-2004, 07:28 PM

I did use it for 4 weeks but not reccommended for too long. Probably to do with the liver effects as found with steroid tabs such as anabol etc.

Jason

Anonymous · 26-11-2004, 10:19 AM

yeah i,d say 2 weeks is a little bit short,,,

4 weeks would be better

polysci · 26-11-2004, 08:12 PM

Prohormones aren't as effective as roids. However, they do work and quite well if you stack. Prohormones are a building block to steriods for newer trainers. Taking Prohormones allows you to adequately see the gains you will most likely achieve but on a greater scale. Prohormones are relatively less expensive than roids due to its effectiveness compared to riods but depending on suppy/demand in your region it could be more!!! Check into prices and see what you would use, it may just be better to go down the juice route!!! :mrgreen: Goodluck!

meathead1987 · 19-12-2004, 10:15 AM

3 weeks is the best length for a M1T cycle:

1. It will shut you down in ~2days

2. It kicks in ~ day 3

3. Results diminish after week 3.

Most PH's are safe to run for 6-8 weeks(Most Methyls excluded)

Anonymous · 19-12-2004, 01:16 PM

Theres a pretty big difference between PH's and juice, juice is a lot more effective! However.. there are advantages to PH's, such as no injections, cheaper, less risk of sides (in most cases) and theres a much lower risk of getting sold fake stuff. Thats why i'm going to be running a few PH cycles before i hit the juice

I'd maybe get in a 1-ad/4-ad cycle (ergo 1-ad and 4derm r you best options) and take it from there, juice will be around forever and you will need to do a LOT of research on gear before you think about getting any, i've been researching it for months now and i still know very little about it all - i'm learning all the time

you should run 1-ad for at least 6 weeks, as most gains don't come till the 3rd-4th week, that probably your best bet, thats what i'm starting on in Jan

peace

Benji · 19-12-2004, 04:28 PM

Pro hormones cheaper than roids? Thats not nesseserally true.

Injectable Steroids are less harmfull to the liver.

24-11-2004, 04:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
toothpic Under Construction Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5 Rep Power:	prohorme or roid guys, i know this has probably been asked lots of times..but here goes. Been looking at the site related to prohormones and seems interesting. Since i come from OZ and they don't have much prohormones i havn't had time to deal or read about them. Just wondering if anyone here has used both roid cycles and prohorm cycles and what results they have had and which they would prefer.. I have done a number of cycles back at home with real good results. Im hoping in trying prohormones to see what results i can get..basically im looking to put on some lean mass on. Something i would use if it was gear would be stacking winny,eq, test.. hopefully some sort of prohormone stack will give similar results.. hope that makes sense.

24-11-2004, 06:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
zx9rjas Making Progress Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Southampton Posts: 343 Rep Power:	I have tried mag 10 by biotest which is a great pro hormone. It contains two androgens A1-E and 4-AD-EC. It is so good that biotest have been told to stop making it but you can still get it. It was about 100 for a two week cycle but I have seen it going for 45 from here http://www.serumzone.co.uk/ I easily moved from 15 to 16 stone with it. J ______________________ 50% of bodybuilding is nutrition 50% of body building is not overtraining If you cant gain see the above

25-11-2004, 07:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
zx9rjas Making Progress Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Southampton Posts: 343 Rep Power:	I did use it for 4 weeks but not reccommended for too long. Probably to do with the liver effects as found with steroid tabs such as anabol etc. Jason ______________________ 50% of bodybuilding is nutrition 50% of body building is not overtraining If you cant gain see the above

19-12-2004, 04:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
Benji Making Progress Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 184 Rep Power:	Pro hormones cheaper than roids? Thats not nesseserally true. Injectable Steroids are less harmfull to the liver. ______________________ Benj

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24-11-2004, 09:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	what about mit? this stuff is quite strong

25-11-2004, 11:26 AM	#4 (permalink)
toothpic Under Construction Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5 Rep Power:	2week cycle only, that seems short, How long would an average cycle running pro-horm be run for?

26-11-2004, 10:19 AM	#6 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	yeah i,d say 2 weeks is a little bit short,,, 4 weeks would be better

26-11-2004, 08:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
polysci Under Construction Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 16 Rep Power:	Prohormones aren't as effective as roids. However, they do work and quite well if you stack. Prohormones are a building block to steriods for newer trainers. Taking Prohormones allows you to adequately see the gains you will most likely achieve but on a greater scale. Prohormones are relatively less expensive than roids due to its effectiveness compared to riods but depending on suppy/demand in your region it could be more!!! Check into prices and see what you would use, it may just be better to go down the juice route!!! :mrgreen: Goodluck!

19-12-2004, 10:15 AM	#8 (permalink)
meathead1987 Making Progress Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 260 Rep Power:	3 weeks is the best length for a M1T cycle: 1. It will shut you down in ~2days 2. It kicks in ~ day 3 3. Results diminish after week 3. Most PH's are safe to run for 6-8 weeks(Most Methyls excluded)

19-12-2004, 01:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	Theres a pretty big difference between PH's and juice, juice is a lot more effective! However.. there are advantages to PH's, such as no injections, cheaper, less risk of sides (in most cases) and theres a much lower risk of getting sold fake stuff. Thats why i'm going to be running a few PH cycles before i hit the juice I'd maybe get in a 1-ad/4-ad cycle (ergo 1-ad and 4derm r you best options) and take it from there, juice will be around forever and you will need to do a LOT of research on gear before you think about getting any, i've been researching it for months now and i still know very little about it all - i'm learning all the time you should run 1-ad for at least 6 weeks, as most gains don't come till the 3rd-4th week, that probably your best bet, thats what i'm starting on in Jan peace