What is Methyl-Dien

What is Methyl-Dien :?:
Just found it on net but never heard of it.
What does it do and is it any good?

Anonymous

i'm sure someone will dig up an article for you

but to keep you from getting restless about it here is what I know about it off the top...

its obviously oral, and dosage opinions are very mixed... firstly everyone said to take 1-3mg a day, then 2-6mg a day, and now i'm hearing 9-12mg a day is better (however at present i've only seen it in 1mg a day tabs)

its a lot different to M1T, although many try to compare the two...

ads of MD are that you don't have to take as much (eg 2-12mg a day is less than 10-20mg which is used with M1T) so the fact you are taking less means less sides compared to the harsh sides experiences with M1T, but it is still a methyl and therefore still hard on the liver, so all usual M1T precautions must be used with a MD cycle, you can also run MD for slightly longer 4-5 weeks due to the lower dose

disads are that gains in terms of muscle are nothing like M1T - you won't put on anywhere near as much size as on a M1T cycle, however apparently it dose help with strength, vascularity, dropping BF, lean-ness/hardness and muscle density, so for someone wishing to lean up it might be a good choice, but if your goal is size it might dissapoint

in terms of stacking i'm not sure... i've heard a few ppl who have just ran it alone and a few people that have ran it with 1-T, i'm planning to run it with some transdermal 1-T next year, will prob only be 1 cycle though (due to the ban - doubt it will be avaliable for much longer)

hope that helps

Anonymous

a little while back i heard it was ment to be like mit without the side affects.

this is when it first come out, since then alot of people have been saying its overhyped. and to stick to mit instead.

i guess the only way to really find out is to try it. what make did you see stumpy? or where did you see it?

cheers

GettinSwole

Methyl Dien Information! by Loki

The chemically-structured 'little cousin' of Methyltrienolone-- one of the most potent steroids ever synthesized--'Methyldienolone,' which also goes by the names 'Methyl-Dien?' & it's true, structural designation 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyestra-4,9(10)dien-3-one, is one of the newest & most intriguing 17-alpha-alkylated (i.e. 'methylated') androgens to have recently emerged in the PH/AAS market as of late.

Little true data exists concerning the use of methyldienolone in healthy human subjects, and-- at the moment I am writing this article-- user feedback concerning the compound simply does not exist to any significant degree. To my knowledge, at present, I am one of only roughly a half-dozen individuals in the United States to have used methyldienolone in a cycle. Thus, for the purposes of this piece, I will be relying more on my own individual experiences/observations with the compound, rather than lab assays & its presumed anabolic: androgenic activity ratio.

Methyldienolone, for all extents & purposes, can best be thought of as a highly orally bioavailable, non-aromatizing 19-Nortestosterone derivative that boasts a very anabolic and moderately androgenic profile. Just to give you an idea, methyldienolone is only a single double-bond away from the 'ubersteroid' 17a-Methyl-17b-Hydroxyestra-4,9,11-Trien-3-one, one of the most anabolic (as well as hepatotoxic) steroids known to man.

In my own limited experience with the compound, methyldienolone is a rather singular androgen in its utter absence of effects on mood, energy levels, and SNS activity. While it is moderately androgenic (and thus has the penchant to produce any/all of the typical androgenic sides associated with PH/AAS use [acne, hair loss, prostate hypertrophy, et. al.]), methyldienolone does not appear to have any significant effect on energy levels, appetite, aggression/complacency, or cognitive capacity. Furthermore, given its close structural similarities to methyltrienolone (as well as its tremendous potency), methyldienolone has to be considered the most hepatotoxic commercially-available 17aa-androgen at present. Still, it is my own personal opinion-- based on an extensive perusal of steroid studies & tests from the past several decades-- that this risk is generally overemphasized when discussing methylated compounds, and is not something that should be considered 'truly dangerous' for a healthy, fit male subject using it in moderation. Nonetheless, just because a phenomenon is not overly dangerous does not mean that some danger does not exist, and use of 17aa-androgens certainly could pose a risk if misused or abused. Thus, as with all 17aa-androgens, those with prior liver conditions &/or concerns in this regard should make sure they exercise the utmost caution if they choose to pursue methyldienolone for personal use.

In terms of its anabolic capabilities, methyldienolone is, without doubt, the most potent (on a mg/mg basis), widely-available 17aa-androgen that one can currently obtain 'legally' (Author's note: Although it is important to note that the actual 'legality' of this class of compounds [re: 17aa-androgens] in compliance with the terms of DSHEA should be considered 'questionable' at best). As a comparison, 1mg of methyldienolone seems to be equivalent, anabolically, to ~8-12mg of 17aa-1-Testosterone (also known as Methyl-1-Test). Impressive (and often rapid) LBM gains (even in the face of a caloric deficit), marginal strength increases, and noticeable aesthetic improvements in vascularity, muscle hardness & fullness, as well as a visible 'leaning out' effect are all facets to methyldienolone use that I have witnessed first-hand.

GettinSwole

That's an article from when it was first emerging. Having used it myself in conjunction w/ M4OHN, I think it is a good compound for LEAN muscle and mild strength. I used the Methyl Dien @6mg per day and the M4OHN @ 12mg per day for 3 weeks to round out a cycle. I felt my strength increased as I lost inches in my stomach/waist area. At first they thought it would be a bulking agent, but I now believe it's a great addition to any cutter cycle. I would say a good dose is between 6-12mg per day. There are some places that sell 2mg pills, but most are 1mg.

Anonymous

cheers for the info gs

there you go stumpy a guy whos tried it.

mark

Always best reports come from those who have tried it - cuts out the bull sh*t from the manufactirers then!

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GettinSwole

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