PH for first cycle

spencer

Hi Guys,

I want to do a cycle of PH but I'm not sure which ones to use. This would be my first time using them and Im looking to gain some more size but also be a bit more ripped.

Ive read a few articles on the net about them but am still none the wiser!!

From what I can work out would 1-AD or 19-NOR be a good one to start with. Ive read 1-AD doesnt convert to eostrogen so no theres no chance of gyno.

Would I also have to get some nolva to take post cycle.

Oh yeah, and wheres the best place to get 'em?

Cheers
spencer

GettinSwole

I think you should always have a test base for any cycle you do. 1ad/4ad combination is a very good beginner cycle. As for the idea that 1ad cannot give you gyno- that's untrue.
When you take 1ad, you will suppress test production b/c 1ad converts to 1-test(not testosterone). Once the levels of test are suppressed, natural levels of estrogen will be higher than the test levels. Higher estrogen than test = a chance for gyno. There are also theories that 1-test can cause progesterone gyno.
You wouldn't have to get nolva for a 1ad/4ad cycle. Just some 6-oxo will work fine.
If you go w/ orals (caps) run the 1ad @ 600mg per day and the 4ad @ 900mg per day for 4-6 weeks.