Side effects of prohormones

usman664 · 26-10-2004, 10:45 PM

I was just reading an article on another website about various tests of anabolic users vs natural users and the side effects that the anabolic steroids users got. does prohormones do the same thing as steroids do or is it different...like for example...increase in heart size, left ventricle and all these things...?

GettinSwole · 27-10-2004, 06:21 AM

basically any side effect you can get from steroids, u get from pro-hormones as well

usman664 · 27-10-2004, 07:28 AM

so why dont they just call them steroids...what about nor andro 19 is that different to steroids...i heard it dosnt really give side effects.

GettinSwole · 27-10-2004, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by usman664

so why dont they just call them steroids...what about nor andro 19 is that different to steroids...i heard it dosnt really give side effects.

Well, some "pro-hormones" are actually pro-steroids meaning that they are steroidal... the pro just means that they are not illegal b/c of a loophole in the law. 1-testosterone is an example of this. It requires no conversion to a parent hormone b/c it is an active hormone in itself. 4-ad is a pro-hormone... it converts to testosterone in the liver. 19-norandro is a pro-hormone with fewer sides than most. The downside to 19-nor is that it also is the least beneficial in terms of mass/strength of the pro-hormones IMO.

Anonymous · 28-10-2004, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GettinSwole

Quote:

Originally Posted by usman664

so why dont they just call them steroids...what about nor andro 19 is that different to steroids...i heard it dosnt really give side effects.

Well, some "pro-hormones" are actually pro-steroids meaning that they are steroidal... the pro just means that they are not illegal b/c of a loophole in the law. 1-testosterone is an example of this. It requires no conversion to a parent hormone b/c it is an active hormone in itself. 4-ad is a pro-hormone... it converts to testosterone in the liver. 19-norandro is a pro-hormone with fewer sides than most. The downside to 19-nor is that it also is the least beneficial in terms of mass/strength of the pro-hormones IMO.

indeed

in the case of M1T, many consider it more potent than d-bol but it is a new substance and therefore has not yet been made illegal (but it will be illegal in roughly 3 months time in the USA, and it has just been made class C over here)

Anonymous · 29-10-2004, 11:24 PM

i used mit, i didnt get any affects at all. i dont no if this is becauise i am already big. and very strong. i was running it at 20 -30mg a day for 4 weeks,

however 19 nor run a 1000mg a day, gives much better results in strength. 40kg increase in deddlift in a week.

this is my opinion. i have used them both.

the 19nor 250 i used was ast. the mit was underground labs.

underground labs mit is cheap incomparison to most other brands, this could be the reason it didnt have any affect.

has anyone else use underground labs mit?

what does IMO mean godfather i aint actually worked out what this mean yet

GettinSwole · 29-10-2004, 11:50 PM

I used Underground Labs for my first M1t cycle and gained 13 lbs in 6 weeks. I will vouch for its quality. I really don't understand how you could get better results from 19nor than you did m1t, but i guess everyone is different

Anonymous · 29-10-2004, 11:58 PM

yeah everyone was saying how great mit was, so i thought i,d have some of it.

i was looking forward to gaining the pounds, starting weight 16 stone,

finishing weight about 16stone 4lbs, and this is nothing i couldnt gain naturally.

it is really strange maybe it didnt like me, anyway i am going to try it again, post the resulst on here

what dosage was you running?

GettinSwole · 30-10-2004, 12:03 AM

I was running 15mg per day w/ a 2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off cycle stacked with 4ad. The cycle looked like this
Weeks 1&2: 15mg M1t, 600mg 4ad transdermal
Weeks 3&4: 20mg Nolva, 600mg 4ad
Weeks 5&6: 15mg M1t, 600mg 4ad
Weeks 7-8: 20mg Nolva, 300mg 6-oxo, ZMA

Most successful short cycle I have ever done.

Anonymous · 30-10-2004, 01:56 PM

do you reckon it could have been the 4ad giving the resulst instead,?

have you tried mit on its own?

cheers

26-10-2004, 10:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
usman664 Under Construction Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 25 Rep Power:	Side effects of prohormones I was just reading an article on another website about various tests of anabolic users vs natural users and the side effects that the anabolic steroids users got. does prohormones do the same thing as steroids do or is it different...like for example...increase in heart size, left ventricle and all these things...?

27-10-2004, 06:21 AM	#2 (permalink)
GettinSwole Making Progress Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: USA Posts: 372 Rep Power:	basically any side effect you can get from steroids, u get from pro-hormones as well ______________________ thricefan@cyber-rights.net You have to do what others won't to achieve what others don't.

29-10-2004, 11:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
GettinSwole Making Progress Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: USA Posts: 372 Rep Power:	I used Underground Labs for my first M1t cycle and gained 13 lbs in 6 weeks. I will vouch for its quality. I really don't understand how you could get better results from 19nor than you did m1t, but i guess everyone is different ______________________ thricefan@cyber-rights.net You have to do what others won't to achieve what others don't.

30-10-2004, 12:03 AM	#9 (permalink)
GettinSwole Making Progress Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: USA Posts: 372 Rep Power:	I was running 15mg per day w/ a 2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off cycle stacked with 4ad. The cycle looked like this Weeks 1&2: 15mg M1t, 600mg 4ad transdermal Weeks 3&4: 20mg Nolva, 600mg 4ad Weeks 5&6: 15mg M1t, 600mg 4ad Weeks 7-8: 20mg Nolva, 300mg 6-oxo, ZMA Most successful short cycle I have ever done. ______________________ thricefan@cyber-rights.net You have to do what others won't to achieve what others don't.

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27-10-2004, 07:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
usman664 Under Construction Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 25 Rep Power:	so why dont they just call them steroids...what about nor andro 19 is that different to steroids...i heard it dosnt really give side effects.

29-10-2004, 11:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	i used mit, i didnt get any affects at all. i dont no if this is becauise i am already big. and very strong. i was running it at 20 -30mg a day for 4 weeks, however 19 nor run a 1000mg a day, gives much better results in strength. 40kg increase in deddlift in a week. this is my opinion. i have used them both. the 19nor 250 i used was ast. the mit was underground labs. underground labs mit is cheap incomparison to most other brands, this could be the reason it didnt have any affect. has anyone else use underground labs mit? what does IMO mean godfather i aint actually worked out what this mean yet

29-10-2004, 11:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	yeah everyone was saying how great mit was, so i thought i,d have some of it. i was looking forward to gaining the pounds, starting weight 16 stone, finishing weight about 16stone 4lbs, and this is nothing i couldnt gain naturally. it is really strange maybe it didnt like me, anyway i am going to try it again, post the resulst on here what dosage was you running?

30-10-2004, 01:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	do you reckon it could have been the 4ad giving the resulst instead,? have you tried mit on its own? cheers