strength loss after a cycle 1AD/4AD

andylquk · 14-09-2004, 10:39 AM

Hi - i just completed my first cycel of 1AD & 4AD - taken for four weeks, i just followed the recommended dosage levels. Started 6OXO immediately after the 4 weeks was up. Am now into the second week of PCT taking 4 x 6OXO in the evening (was doing 6 x in the first week). During the first week my strength still seemed to be improving I guess I still had some andro in the body - however yesterday my chest workout was a real struggle - i always try to do more than i did in my previous weeks workout, but my flat bench press wasn't up to the previous weeks. In fact i had to lower the weight from 110Kgs (3x8) to 105kgs to maintain good form and then only managed (3x6). Is this loss in strength normal when coming off a cycle - can this or similar be expected all the time? Also i noticed after a week of the 6OXO i felt really depressed and couldnt put my finger on what was causing this - except maybe it must be some kind of withdrawal sympton created by the 6OXO. Any advice will be appreciated.

Just for information on side effects with the above - i noticed a few spots on my shoulders nothing major, sleepless nights plenty, loss of libido, a little bit of a short fuse though nothing major! Regardless of the above I'm happy with the gains i made with the 1AD & 4AD. After years of working out and trying you name it in the supplement market, these def work (as does creatine/protein) - I'm gonna certainley stop wasting money on herbal crap and all that other stuff that has never shown any benefit to me, including Nitrox, vanadyl sulphate etc.

tissue · 14-09-2004, 11:19 AM

just out of curiosity are you supposed to even take 1ad and 4 ad together i thourght that was a bad idea to do???

andylquk · 14-09-2004, 11:48 AM

Quote from the ergopharm website from the FAQ on 1AD

Stacking 1-AD with 4-AD (Androdiol) can be of value. You can get the mass gain benefits of the diol prohormones combined with the strength benefits of 1-AD.

I've also read similar on bodybuilding.com suggested stacks.

mutley · 14-09-2004, 01:15 PM

you've definetley gone about things the right way.

I found that stack good for strength/poor for mass and it tailed off pretty much straight away. Your sides seem typical and match others, from what I have read.

IMO 1-AD is too expensive. I would not take it again.

andylquk · 14-09-2004, 01:23 PM

It can be expensive from most UK websites but discount supplements sell it for 27.99 - there is no way i would pay 55 as it seems to retail on most uk sites / same with 6OXO.

tissue · 14-09-2004, 04:20 PM

well i just learnt summin new to add to my list about ph's

mark · 15-09-2004, 08:22 AM

Mate feeling depressed is normal! it is just your body trying to level out the hormone levels - don't worry about it, shouldn't last too long - Just don't do anything sutpid like walking acroos high bridges when you feel like this! lol

mutley · 15-09-2004, 05:21 PM

27.99 - not a bad price at all.

Worth considering at that price for sure.

14-09-2004, 10:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
andylquk Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London Posts: 6 Rep Power:	strength loss after a cycle 1AD/4AD Hi - i just completed my first cycel of 1AD & 4AD - taken for four weeks, i just followed the recommended dosage levels. Started 6OXO immediately after the 4 weeks was up. Am now into the second week of PCT taking 4 x 6OXO in the evening (was doing 6 x in the first week). During the first week my strength still seemed to be improving I guess I still had some andro in the body - however yesterday my chest workout was a real struggle - i always try to do more than i did in my previous weeks workout, but my flat bench press wasn't up to the previous weeks. In fact i had to lower the weight from 110Kgs (3x8) to 105kgs to maintain good form and then only managed (3x6). Is this loss in strength normal when coming off a cycle - can this or similar be expected all the time? Also i noticed after a week of the 6OXO i felt really depressed and couldnt put my finger on what was causing this - except maybe it must be some kind of withdrawal sympton created by the 6OXO. Any advice will be appreciated. Just for information on side effects with the above - i noticed a few spots on my shoulders nothing major, sleepless nights plenty, loss of libido, a little bit of a short fuse though nothing major! Regardless of the above I'm happy with the gains i made with the 1AD & 4AD. After years of working out and trying you name it in the supplement market, these def work (as does creatine/protein) - I'm gonna certainley stop wasting money on herbal crap and all that other stuff that has never shown any benefit to me, including Nitrox, vanadyl sulphate etc.

14-09-2004, 11:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
tissue Making Progress Join Date: May 2004 Location: England Posts: 421 Rep Power:	just out of curiosity are you supposed to even take 1ad and 4 ad together i thourght that was a bad idea to do??? ______________________ "don't diss the spelling lol "

14-09-2004, 04:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
tissue Making Progress Join Date: May 2004 Location: England Posts: 421 Rep Power:	well i just learnt summin new to add to my list about ph's ______________________ "don't diss the spelling lol "

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14-09-2004, 11:48 AM	#3 (permalink)
andylquk Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London Posts: 6 Rep Power:	Quote from the ergopharm website from the FAQ on 1AD Stacking 1-AD with 4-AD (Androdiol) can be of value. You can get the mass gain benefits of the diol prohormones combined with the strength benefits of 1-AD. I've also read similar on bodybuilding.com suggested stacks.

14-09-2004, 01:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
mutley Making Progress Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 164 Rep Power:	you've definetley gone about things the right way. I found that stack good for strength/poor for mass and it tailed off pretty much straight away. Your sides seem typical and match others, from what I have read. IMO 1-AD is too expensive. I would not take it again.

14-09-2004, 01:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
andylquk Under Construction Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London Posts: 6 Rep Power:	It can be expensive from most UK websites but discount supplements sell it for 27.99 - there is no way i would pay 55 as it seems to retail on most uk sites / same with 6OXO.

15-09-2004, 08:22 AM	#7 (permalink)
mark Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: England Posts: 365 Rep Power:	Mate feeling depressed is normal! it is just your body trying to level out the hormone levels - don't worry about it, shouldn't last too long - Just don't do anything sutpid like walking acroos high bridges when you feel like this! lol

15-09-2004, 05:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
mutley Making Progress Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 164 Rep Power:	27.99 - not a bad price at all. Worth considering at that price for sure.