which ph's to use for bulking?

richtries · 24-08-2004, 09:07 PM

Can anyone recommend a prohormone for a beginner wanting to bulk?

I've seen a product from LA Muscle called Norateen, has anyone heard of this?

http://www.bodyhut.com/shop/prodView.asp?idproduct=131

I also come across this product;

http://www.ripfast.com/files/intelRa...toIntelSS1.php

what do you think?

Anonymous · 25-08-2004, 06:55 AM

Hey Rich,

I wouldn't bother with either - the amount of 4AD in the Norateen is pretty negligable and the ripfast stuff has no PH in it at all.

If you're looking for PH's to help with bulking try a course of 1 Test and 4AD, but the sides from the 1 Test might be a bit harsh (lethargy etc).
Best 'bang for buck' tho has got to be M1T at the mo, but also comes with a whole load of sides/potential health issues!

Maybe 19nordiol would be a better bet - I've no direct experience of this but I'm sure other members have and have liked it and might be able to offer some feedback from it?

PCT is also important to bring back your own testosterone production - 6OXO at least and I would suggest nolva for the 1T/4AD keep the calories high and reduce your training intensity slightly.

Saying all that tho, the major things are diet and training - have you got these covered before starting PH's?

Anonymous · 25-08-2004, 03:10 PM

19 nor

least side affects aswell

this is what i used

cheers steve

scubadog · 25-08-2004, 03:11 PM

I agree the key is diet, M1T will help along with plenty of calories from good clean foods. Supplement with weight gainers, almonds etc

richtries · 26-08-2004, 04:41 PM

diet and training is sorted. what size gains did you get on the 19nor steve? would i have to follow this up with PCT? what with? and for how long?

cheers guys.

Anonymous · 28-08-2004, 09:24 PM

ive, never used any pct with 19 nor and never had any side affects.

size gains, well 3 years of bodybuilding

went from 11 stone to 17 stone 7 lbs

ive never recorded how much i gained while on the 19 nor alone

cheers steve

tissue · 28-08-2004, 10:22 PM

might give that stuff ago when im old enough

24-08-2004, 09:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
richtries Under Construction Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: essex Posts: 76 Rep Power:	which ph's to use for bulking? Can anyone recommend a prohormone for a beginner wanting to bulk? I've seen a product from LA Muscle called Norateen, has anyone heard of this? http://www.bodyhut.com/shop/prodView.asp?idproduct=131 I also come across this product; http://www.ripfast.com/files/intelRa...toIntelSS1.php what do you think?

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25-08-2004, 06:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	Hey Rich, I wouldn't bother with either - the amount of 4AD in the Norateen is pretty negligable and the ripfast stuff has no PH in it at all. If you're looking for PH's to help with bulking try a course of 1 Test and 4AD, but the sides from the 1 Test might be a bit harsh (lethargy etc). Best 'bang for buck' tho has got to be M1T at the mo, but also comes with a whole load of sides/potential health issues! Maybe 19nordiol would be a better bet - I've no direct experience of this but I'm sure other members have and have liked it and might be able to offer some feedback from it? PCT is also important to bring back your own testosterone production - 6OXO at least and I would suggest nolva for the 1T/4AD keep the calories high and reduce your training intensity slightly. Saying all that tho, the major things are diet and training - have you got these covered before starting PH's?

25-08-2004, 03:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	19 nor least side affects aswell this is what i used cheers steve

25-08-2004, 03:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
scubadog Under Construction Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 14 Rep Power:	I agree the key is diet, M1T will help along with plenty of calories from good clean foods. Supplement with weight gainers, almonds etc

26-08-2004, 04:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
richtries Under Construction Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: essex Posts: 76 Rep Power:	diet and training is sorted. what size gains did you get on the 19nor steve? would i have to follow this up with PCT? what with? and for how long? cheers guys.

28-08-2004, 09:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	ive, never used any pct with 19 nor and never had any side affects. size gains, well 3 years of bodybuilding went from 11 stone to 17 stone 7 lbs ive never recorded how much i gained while on the 19 nor alone cheers steve