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09-08-2004, 07:02 PM
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| Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:  |  Hey Guys, Here's a little something about it, looks quite interesting but there doesn't seem to be much product about... Methyl Hydroxy Nandrolone by pogue Hydroxy Nandrolone, like its counterpart, Hydroxy Testosterone, is a steroid which is quite obscure and not much is written about it in medical literature. Hydroxy Nandrolone was produced commercially in Italy under the name Steranabol. It was chemically known as oxabolone. Like Hydroxy Testosterone, Hydroxy Nandrolone also has a hydroxyl group at the 4 position on the molecule. This makes it incapable of interacting with the aromatese and 5 alpha reductase enzymes. However, since nandrolone typically reduces into a much weaker androgen, DHN, this would make Hydroxy Nandrolone more androgenic. In the body nandrolone reduces to DHN through the same pathway that testosterone reduces to DHT. But, in this case, DHN is weaker and less androgenic than DHT. So, with Hydroxy Nandrolone, we are left with a more potent androgen since it cannot convert through the same pathway. [1] Nandrolone is the base steroid of Hydroxy Nandrolone. Nandrolone deconate is a popular illegal anabolic steroid, commonly known as Deca Durabolin. Deca is well known for being a strong anabolic, with fewer androgenic properties. This is due to the fact that nandrolone is missing a carbon atom at the 19 position, giving it overall more affinity for the androgen receptor than testosterone. [2] However, unlike Hydroxy Nandrolone, base nandrolone can aromatize into estrogen. When we look at the information on Steranabol, we see that it is overall less potent than its parent, nandrolone. [3] It is probably closer in action to another popular steroid, oxandrolone. Oxandrolone is well known for its ability to act as a hardening agent to use on cutting or lean mass cycles. Since it does not aromatize, it is of good use for this regards. Oxandrolone, commonly known for its trade name, Anavar, is a very mild steroid. However, since oxandrolone is a DHT derivative, can be somewhat androgenic, and this will probably not be as pronounced with Hydroxy Nandrolone. This is because the hydroxyl group reduces androgen receptor binding affinity. There is also a question of progestional activity with this compound. It is well known that nandrolone and its derivatives can bind to the progesterone receptor. However, those concerned with gynecomastia can rest assured that progesterone is not the cause of it. Progesterone requires the presence of estrogen in order to cause gyno. Those prone to gyno, may not want use Hydroxy Nandrolone with another aromatizing compound like 4AD, while others might simply just use an anti-estrogen like tamoxifen citrate while on a cycle. However, it is unknown what affinity Hydroxy Nandrolone has for the progesterone receptor, so taking precaution is not unwarranted. With Methyl Hydroxy Nandrolone, or MOHN, we end up with a very interesting compound. With MOHN, one would expect increases in lean muscle mass, as well as a noticeable increase in strength. Since MOHN doesnt aromatize, you would not notice water retention, or other estrogenic side effects typically associated with Deca. MOHN would work well during bulking cycles with the addition of 4AD and 1-testosterone, and probably work even better on cutting cycles used alone. MOHN would be well tolerated by people concerned about side effects, and women. Being a methylated compound, it will raise liver enzymes, so it would be best not to stack it with other methylated substances. As with MOHT, R-Ala, NAC and milk thistle would work as good additions for those concerned about liver related issues. |
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18-08-2004, 05:57 PM
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| Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power: | NP! Legal Gear have a good following and seem to be very genned up on the whole PH/PS thing at the moment, they also have a good customer service record - I haven't ordered any of their product as I'm a tight arse and you can generally find the same product elsewhere for a more reasonable price (it's all made by the Chinese anyway!!!). If in doubt give him a quick email, I'm sure he'll respond ASAP with any answers you need! MOHN does look good tho! |
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22-08-2004, 01:16 PM
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| Under Construction Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 14 Rep Power: | Ive just finished a course of methyl ohn with mixed feelings, so here goes. 1. You will need at least 8mg + per day, even that may not be enough. 2. If you want to bulk I dont think its much use, however i can see benefits for a cutting cycle. Lean gains were mediocre. 3. Heres the best bit, i felt it was more potent than many of the non methylated PH's i.e 19nor, 4AD etc with absolutely no side effects (at least for me anyway) no sick feelings, no ball shrinkage, no lethargy, headaches or high blood pressure. 4. however its very slooooowwwww to work and doesn't give pre workout motivation like many of the other PH's. 5.Good strength increases on bench press etc. Conclusion- I would repeat a course again, simply due to the lack of sides. However for results there is a price to pay and MOHN does not compare to M1T. If you are cautious this is a good beginner PH and a good alternative to M1T |
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22-08-2004, 04:07 PM
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| Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power: | Yeah, I've heard it's real slow compared to stuff like M1T etc and that people are also taking nearly 40mg ed of MOHN!!!. Maybe combining it with something like 5AA or 3Alpha (if you're OK with the conversion to DHT) would be a good cutting stack. |
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24-08-2004, 07:13 AM
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| Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power: | This is either really friggin toxic or just a marketing ploy but 2mg caps do seem to be a bit on the low side. For higher strength MOHN have a look at : http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/omega/mohn.html |
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