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Old 31-07-2004, 05:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Start my cycle tomorrow:-

Weeks 1-4 - 10mg M1T ED, Split in to two 5mg doses, one am, one pm
- 525mg Milk Thistle ED, 175mg 3 times daily with meals
Week 5 - 500mg 6 Oxo ED, With evening meal
Week 6 - 200mg 6 Oxo ED, With evening meal
Week 7 - 100mg 6 Oxo ED With evening meal

What do you think?

Just a couple of questions:

Should I avoid taking the M1T with anything? Meals, Milk Thistle etc?

Do I need anything else for PCT?

Any other suggestions?

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Old 31-07-2004, 07:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Hi Bud,

Hope it goes well for you!

IMHO, take the M1T with meals - it's been reported to cause stomach upset on it's own.

You might want to add NAC, hawthorn berry, multi vits, EFA's high doses vit B & C, to help protect the liver, lower any increased BP and to bolster your immune system.

Please do not start this until you've got some tamoxifen citrate (Nolva) - the general consensus is that 6OXO is not nearly enough for PCT.

I would further recommend (based on other users reports and my own limited time on M1T) to load your body with the above protectants for at least 6 weeks before starting the M1T, you might also want to pre load and run 4AD with the M1T to help with any lethargy and loss of libido that you may experience.

I know this sounds 'preachy' Benj, but please get some Nolva at least before starting something as strong as M1T!

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Old 31-07-2004, 08:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Hi Benj,

Sorry Bud, just read your other post - PLEASE DO NOT use M1T at your age - I'm not having a dig, but at 17 you've got enough of your natural testosterone (assuming you're healthy etc) creating more will put your endocrine system way out of kilter and could even halt your own natural testosterone production - only plus side to that is the weekly trips to the docs for sust injections at a very low dose :cry: :cry:

I don't want to scare you Benj, but this is a pretty potent compound from all reports - train hard and you will see results and please keep the M1T for a future cycle (it should last for at least 5/7 yrs if kept dry and cool - people are stocking up putting the PH's in their packaging in a tupperware with some anti condensation sachets and freezing them!)

Like I said Mate, I'm not having a dig or anything, just trying to help!

Let us know yeah?
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Old 31-07-2004, 08:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hmmmm.....Thought I'd get this response.. :?

Now I've gone and bought the bloody things, im pretty pissed!

I suppose......... i'm getting alright gains at the moment seem to be going up about 1-2 pounds a week but, its just me, i'm the most impatient bastard ever! I really want to see some quick gains!

Well I don't know if i'll be using the PH's now, I really know I shouldn't, and i'll be giving it some deep thought.

Cheers for the advise LM

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Old 31-07-2004, 08:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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And on another note, not an excuse for me to do it, but Arnold Schwarzenegger and alot of other pro's started juiceing at around 17.

Not an excuse, just a point!

I know if Blah blah jumped off a cliff would I, No! But ya know.

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Old 01-08-2004, 10:02 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Schwarzenegger is one of the most intelligent former body builder's but it took him a long time to achieve his goals, mainly because in the first decade or so he ate and trained incorrectly, he could have got where he did a lot faster if he had done otherwise, and without drugs.

His natural genetic potential and other factors indicated he would become top dog anyway, anyone who says natural genetic potential does not matter is wrong by the way and just either lying or badly misinformed, it does.

M1T and similar are on par with Steroids, your internal organs, i.e. liver and kidneys will be damaged, the precautions you take cannot guarantee otherwise and no research has been done on the health status of the liver and kidneys after regular usage of M1T.

Like you were advised, at 17 you have lots of vitality, enough to keep you going 'au natural' that's for sure.

The stuff you bought you could always sell on, there are plenty of people out there who don't care about their health or you could just take the loss and flush the M1T down the loo like I did, by the way I don't regret doing so...

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And on another note, not an excuse for me to do it, but Arnold Schwarzenegger and alot of other pro's started juiceing at around 17.

Not an excuse, just a point!

I know if Blah blah jumped off a cliff would I, No! But ya know.
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Old 01-08-2004, 03:11 PM   #7 (permalink)
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u could always try using insulin benji but personaly im not sure coz something can go wrong easily and nearly killing ur self in 40 secs isnt really worth it for a few big muscles lol

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Cool. like I said Mate I wasn't having a dig.

On the plus side tho, once the ban is in place you might be able to make a bit of profit on the M1T! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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what times of the day are you taking your 5mg?

do you just take it anytime am/pm or at set times? does it depend what time you train?

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I take my first one with my breakfast then my last one no later than 3pm cos I find it does upset my sleep if I take it any later than that!
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