SOMETHING DIFFERENT

themule · 26-07-2004, 08:16 PM

Hi all, i need advice as i am still learning and doing homework on these, anyway, as some of the guys know i have been using 19 nor, got some good results from it, but would it be prudent to stick with it ( steve if you have any prohormones left let me know) or is there another with a little bit more of a kick, but that has the minimal or vitually no side effects, all advice as usual will be gratefully recieved and much appreciated.

Dave.

meathead1987 · 27-07-2004, 08:12 AM

1. How long have you been on 19 Nor?

2. What do you have for PCT

3. There are no PH's that give excellent results withiout a few sides. Your best bet is 1T/4AD transdermal.

themule · 27-07-2004, 08:32 AM

Hi mate, on and off for about 3 months, sorry PCT you will have to detail an explanation on that one, lastly thanks for that, i will start to research that straight away. Like i said i am a newcomer to these things, but once i get the general ins and outs i will be able to sort it out, thanks for your patience.

Dave.

mark · 27-07-2004, 08:37 AM

PCT is generally used to combat side effects (gyno and test production) when you stop using Pro Hormones.

A lot of people find them not needed with PH's - i know Steve doesn't use any with 19 nor.

It basically depends what type of side effects you get.

themule · 27-07-2004, 11:20 AM

Hiya Mark, thanks mate, no i havent had any side effects from the 19 nor at all, i can only assume that i am fortunate, what do you think mate should i have a gap before taking more 19 nor especially as i have had no side effects, and given that i have had good results from them, or take something else.

Dave.

Anonymous · 28-07-2004, 07:53 PM

i always find 19 nor good,

get converted to nand insted of test

thinking back

ive taken 1000mg a day and still no sideys,excellent gains in strength
and certanly a good boost to your training,

i would recomend this to people new to them

what do you reckon you are going to do dave?

you are gaining well mate

The Natural · 29-07-2004, 04:50 AM

PCT- Post Cycle Therapy

A anti-oestrogenic, eg nolvadex, would be useful along with something to help elevate endogenous testosterone production to previous levels, eg Tribulus.

themule · 30-07-2004, 01:14 AM

Steve im not sure what to do , i may up my level of 19 nor, and try some of the anti oestrogenic, that the natural suggests, certainly wont do me any harm, really pissed off at myself at not doing enough research on these will put concerted effort into this thats gaurunteed, thanks to all who dropped a line in much appreciated, anything else anyone has to suggest just say.

Dave.

Barry · 30-07-2004, 10:48 AM

Nolvadex or Arimidex are best choice apparently for 4-AD

Other Anti-Estrogen Supplements are:
Biotest M
Dermabolics E Form

Post Cycle with Ergopharm 6 OXO and Milk Thistle is often done.

Barry

P.S. Expensive stuff this, bloody hell.

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Originally Posted by themule

Steve im not sure what to do , i may up my level of 19 nor, and try some of the anti oestrogenic, that the natural suggests, certainly wont do me any harm, really pissed off at myself at not doing enough research on these will put concerted effort into this thats gaurunteed, thanks to all who dropped a line in much appreciated, anything else anyone has to suggest just say.

Dave.

themule · 17-08-2004, 02:36 PM

Hi Barry, thanks for that input, i'll go away do some homework and have a think about what i will take, thanks to all who replied, much appreciated.

Dave.

26-07-2004, 08:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
themule Making Progress Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: scotland Posts: 540 Rep Power:	SOMETHING DIFFERENT Hi all, i need advice as i am still learning and doing homework on these, anyway, as some of the guys know i have been using 19 nor, got some good results from it, but would it be prudent to stick with it ( steve if you have any prohormones left let me know) or is there another with a little bit more of a kick, but that has the minimal or vitually no side effects, all advice as usual will be gratefully recieved and much appreciated. Dave.

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The Natural Under Construction Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Staffordshire, UK Posts: 81 Rep Power:	PCT- Post Cycle Therapy A anti-oestrogenic, eg nolvadex, would be useful along with something to help elevate endogenous testosterone production to previous levels, eg Tribulus. ______________________ "You're hit man, you're bleedin"-"Ain't got time to bleed"

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27-07-2004, 08:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
meathead1987 Making Progress Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 260 Rep Power:	1. How long have you been on 19 Nor? 2. What do you have for PCT 3. There are no PH's that give excellent results withiout a few sides. Your best bet is 1T/4AD transdermal.

27-07-2004, 08:32 AM	#3 (permalink)
themule Making Progress Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: scotland Posts: 540 Rep Power:	Hi mate, on and off for about 3 months, sorry PCT you will have to detail an explanation on that one, lastly thanks for that, i will start to research that straight away. Like i said i am a newcomer to these things, but once i get the general ins and outs i will be able to sort it out, thanks for your patience. Dave.

27-07-2004, 08:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
mark Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: England Posts: 365 Rep Power:	PCT is generally used to combat side effects (gyno and test production) when you stop using Pro Hormones. A lot of people find them not needed with PH's - i know Steve doesn't use any with 19 nor. It basically depends what type of side effects you get.

27-07-2004, 11:20 AM	#5 (permalink)
themule Making Progress Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: scotland Posts: 540 Rep Power:	Hiya Mark, thanks mate, no i havent had any side effects from the 19 nor at all, i can only assume that i am fortunate, what do you think mate should i have a gap before taking more 19 nor especially as i have had no side effects, and given that i have had good results from them, or take something else. Dave.

28-07-2004, 07:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	i always find 19 nor good, get converted to nand insted of test thinking back ive taken 1000mg a day and still no sideys,excellent gains in strength and certanly a good boost to your training, i would recomend this to people new to them what do you reckon you are going to do dave? you are gaining well mate

30-07-2004, 01:14 AM	#8 (permalink)
themule Making Progress Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: scotland Posts: 540 Rep Power:	Steve im not sure what to do , i may up my level of 19 nor, and try some of the anti oestrogenic, that the natural suggests, certainly wont do me any harm, really pissed off at myself at not doing enough research on these will put concerted effort into this thats gaurunteed, thanks to all who dropped a line in much appreciated, anything else anyone has to suggest just say. Dave.

17-08-2004, 02:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
themule Making Progress Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: scotland Posts: 540 Rep Power:	Hi Barry, thanks for that input, i'll go away do some homework and have a think about what i will take, thanks to all who replied, much appreciated. Dave.