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Old 26-07-2004, 12:08 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Erm... no, but then it depends on how much you value your balls, sex drive, hair and health in general, but to me it's not worth the risk, your opinion may differ however...

Since looking into M1T (Underground Labs version) deeper after having bouight a bottle I have to say there is no way I would want to sell it to anyone, not now, the internet is littered with forum posts and information about it and high end dosage side effects.

S1+ is something I want to look into deeper, although more expensive than the M1T it is apparently less harsh and I've not read anything about negative side effects from using this.

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Old 26-07-2004, 07:19 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Barry, i was attempting a dash of irony/sarcasm there. i would rather go with food, training, sleep, ad infinitum.

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Old 26-07-2004, 08:38 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Ah right, did not notice the flashing sarcasm strobe lights, too much computer work Did wonder considering your username though

I agree health etc is more important, but then I think longterm about a lot of things.

Are you a vegetarian by the way?

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Old 26-07-2004, 09:40 PM   #14 (permalink)
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nope, not a veggie chief. i was for 6 months when i was 17, but McDonalds 'broke' me ....:.

longterm thinking is to be valued- "if you fail to prepare, prepare to fail".....

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Wow this is turning into quite a debate!

As far as sides Barry Balls have shrunk a bit but after speaking to other people about this it should only take a couple of weeks to come back to full size, I have not lost any hair and trust me I have not lost any of my sex drive.

Can I just say that I know some people don't agree with Ph's/Steroids that is fine with me - everyone is entitled to their own oppinion on these things.

My personal opinion is that if you are careful and run things sensibly after doing lots of research and have the neccesary PCT on hand then I don not see it as a problem, so please if you don't agree with what I am taking then don't bother reading my POST. I am creating this log of my M1t cycle to help other people who are intrested in taking M1t not so that people who don't agree with Ph's can come and take the piss.

I am being as honest as i can possibly be with this and am highlighting all the pro's and con's that I am feeling.
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Old 27-07-2004, 08:27 AM   #16 (permalink)
 
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OK next update:

It is the start of my 3rd week today, as planned before I am taking these 2 weeks off as I have read this to be a good guideline (2 on 2 off 2 on). Having said this I was tempted to carry it on for another week as I keep stating have had very few sides.

The main problem that i am having at the moment is spots on my chest and face - Feels like i'm 15 again!

Other than that I have gained 4lb and my strangth has gone up a hell of a lot!
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My balls haven't shrunk man, who is spreading such a vile rumour

Most bad side effects are reported by people on 20mg and higher, however say the side effects that you notice, are not so bad for you by the end of the cycle and you manage to *retain* half of your gains afterwards, that still leaves the possibility of internal damage done to organs and there is no documentation about that as regards M1T, just advice by various users on protecting the liver and taking anti-Estrogen etc as a precaution.

I'm not knocking you or anyone else Mark, and would like everything to go great for you and for you to keep the gains and your balls to go back to normal status Your honesty and feedback is appreciated, I was just voicing my concerns because without your health life is less.

Oh, and I would personally use anything that helped so long as the side effects were not bad.

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Wow this is turning into quite a debate!

As far as sides Barry Balls have shrunk a bit but after speaking to other people about this it should only take a couple of weeks to come back to full size, I have not lost any hair and trust me I have not lost any of my sex drive.

Can I just say that I know some people don't agree with Ph's/Steroids that is fine with me - everyone is entitled to their own oppinion on these things.

My personal opinion is that if you are careful and run things sensibly after doing lots of research and have the neccesary PCT on hand then I don not see it as a problem, so please if you don't agree with what I am taking then don't bother reading my POST. I am creating this log of my M1t cycle to help other people who are intrested in taking M1t not so that people who don't agree with Ph's can come and take the piss.

I am being as honest as i can possibly be with this and am highlighting all the pro's and con's that I am feeling.
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Old 27-07-2004, 11:13 AM   #18 (permalink)
 
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I know where you are coming from Barry but the amount that I am using is so small. There are risks with Excess anything in life.

If people start with stupid sarcastic comments then I will just stop posting on this site and keep all the info to myself.

After all I only post this information for other people benefit. if I start getting hassled for doing so then I will just stop!
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Mark,
apologies for any offense you may have taken.

I have read and posted on a number of boards and this is one of the more sensible. Though a theme i see running through many boards is a lack of respect for the seriousness of some of the performance enhancing substances available today. I've seen posts where 16-18year olds have been told it's ok to do steroids/prohormones because they have researched it thoroughly enough!! This is a joke, these guys don't even have mens bodies yet. I don't think these substances (legal and illegal) should be promoted without all the possible side-effects being made clear at the same time, because there are too many of these youngsters reading this. Too many people are living in dreamland, 'hoping' that things won't go wrong. 'Hoping' is no safety net.


I hope it goes well for you, spots are no fun, i still got them at 25(going on Accutane when i get back). Though 4lbs in two weeks is not that impressive, especially when you factor in the financial cost.

Keep training/eating hard.

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Completely agree with The Natural regarding the use of PH/PS/AAS' by 'youngsters' and that hoping nothing goes wrong is definately not a safety net - if you're gonna use M1T get nolva BEFORE starting the M1T, keep doses lowish and see how you react...more is not neccesarily better.

Also agree with Mark, it's your cycle mate, do it how you see fit and thanks for posting your results so far.
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