LM's M1T/4AD/5AA Cycle

Anonymous · 04-07-2004, 08:11 PM

Hi Guys,

Well it's finally arrived from the USA (Hurrah!!!) so I'll be starting my M1T/4AD/5AA cycle on the 17th July for 30 days.

30 Days 4AD @ 8ml transdermal a day
30 Days 5AA @ 100/200mg a day (depending on sides)
15 Days M1T @ 5/10mg a day (again depending on sides)

15 Days Nolva @ 40mcg a day as PCT
15 Days Nolva @ 20mcg a day as PCT

Also running :

Milk thistle
H/S Multi vits
12g Vit C a day
Flax oil
EPO
Fish oil
Hawthorn Berry
Cranberry extract
NAC

I'll let everyone know how I get on with it.

Benj · 04-07-2004, 11:42 PM

Sounds good!

Let us know how it goes!
You could even make a journal to let everyone know your progress

Random question but why the 17th?

Anonymous · 05-07-2004, 07:49 AM

Hi Benj,

Cheers mate, I'll certainly start a journal with diet/training etc.

I'm starting this on the 17th July because my brother gets married on the 15th August so his wedding day will be my last day of the cycle before PCT.

So hopefully I'll be quite impressive in the 'photo's!!!!

Yeah I know, I'm a tart!!!

mds303 · 12-07-2004, 04:52 PM

Will you be taking 5AA all the way throughout the cycle or at the end?

Anonymous · 12-07-2004, 08:26 PM

Hi MDS,

All the way thru. (dependant on sides...) @ 200mg per day.

Why's that Bruv?

mds303 · 13-07-2004, 03:10 PM

Cheers LM, its hust that i didnt know much about 5AA and what it does.

Anonymous · 24-07-2004, 08:26 PM

Hi Guys,

Well, it's been one week since I started the 4AD transdermal and the 5AA oral at 500mgs and 200mgs a day respectively.

And....nothing major to report so far, a little oilier skin, quicker temper (but now I recognise that I can control it-ie not snap the wifes head off!!!)
But, I tried a XL sized shirt on in a shop yesterday and the top two buttons were pulling across my chest and Ihad to 'help' the sleeves up....so something must be happening!

The 5AA has pretty much the same effect as ephedra minus the shakes and 'wired' feeling, but seems to be v good at promoting focus, drive and determination this is why I am using quite a small dose about 1hr before training.

The transdermal 4AD was a right BITCH to mix - I don't think I heated the gel long enough first and I just chucked 7.5g of 4AD into it and shook it....result : grainy solution.
So, a couple of reheats and shakes and it seems to be fairly well suspended but still quite grainy.

The next one I'm going to heat for at least ten minutes and add the 4AD a little at a time shaking and reheating as I go.

I haven't changed my diet or training which are both pretty good (IMHO) but I have had a couple of 'bad days' - crap food and a couple of beers...Bad LM!!!!

So, one more week to go until I throw the M1T in - I'm gonna run this at 10mg a day instead of the 5mg as originally planned just to try and get some extra size on in the last two weeks.

I'll post again next weekend if that's OK with everyone?

Thanks for reading!

The Natural · 25-07-2004, 09:45 PM

LM, have you taken any measurements prior to beginning the cycle? BF%, circumferences(eg arms, legs, waist, etc) would give you more of an honest/unbiased verdict of whether the products are working or not.

For me, 'thinking' things work is not enough, i got to have proof if i am going to spend my money on it again, or recommend anyone else spends their money on it.

Cheers.

Anonymous · 26-07-2004, 12:02 PM

Hi Natural,

No, I haven't taken any specific measurements - I'm going on how I look in the mirror and what my friends/colleagues say and how my clothes fit.

I know this sounds flaky but I am quite happy with 'measuring' the effectiveness of these compounds this way.

Hopefully, once my cycle has ended and I have completed PCT I will be in a better position to advise or make suggestions/comments on this cycle.

I understand why people like to see measurements etc but IMHO everyone will respond different and therefore what one person experiences another may not and then a slanging match could ensue.

Thanks Bud and I'm not very jealous of you being in Orlando!!!

Anonymous · 26-07-2004, 08:00 PM

i am lol,

look forward to hering the comments mate,

will be very interesting,

couple of crap days,self disiplin,

get the most from your cycle

you got any future cycles planned,the thought must have crossed your mind.

is there still no noticeable gains?

04-07-2004, 08:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	LM's M1T/4AD/5AA Cycle Hi Guys, Well it's finally arrived from the USA (Hurrah!!!) so I'll be starting my M1T/4AD/5AA cycle on the 17th July for 30 days. 30 Days 4AD @ 8ml transdermal a day 30 Days 5AA @ 100/200mg a day (depending on sides) 15 Days M1T @ 5/10mg a day (again depending on sides) 15 Days Nolva @ 40mcg a day as PCT 15 Days Nolva @ 20mcg a day as PCT Also running : Milk thistle H/S Multi vits 12g Vit C a day Flax oil EPO Fish oil Hawthorn Berry Cranberry extract NAC I'll let everyone know how I get on with it.

04-07-2004, 11:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
Benj Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Uk - North West Posts: 289 Rep Power:	Sounds good! Let us know how it goes! You could even make a journal to let everyone know your progress Random question but why the 17th? ______________________ Benj

25-07-2004, 09:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
The Natural Under Construction Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Staffordshire, UK Posts: 81 Rep Power:	LM, have you taken any measurements prior to beginning the cycle? BF%, circumferences(eg arms, legs, waist, etc) would give you more of an honest/unbiased verdict of whether the products are working or not. For me, 'thinking' things work is not enough, i got to have proof if i am going to spend my money on it again, or recommend anyone else spends their money on it. Cheers. ______________________ "You're hit man, you're bleedin"-"Ain't got time to bleed"

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05-07-2004, 07:49 AM	#3 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	Hi Benj, Cheers mate, I'll certainly start a journal with diet/training etc. I'm starting this on the 17th July because my brother gets married on the 15th August so his wedding day will be my last day of the cycle before PCT. So hopefully I'll be quite impressive in the 'photo's!!!! Yeah I know, I'm a tart!!!

12-07-2004, 04:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
mds303 Under Construction Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 61 Rep Power:	Will you be taking 5AA all the way throughout the cycle or at the end?

12-07-2004, 08:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	Hi MDS, All the way thru. (dependant on sides...) @ 200mg per day. Why's that Bruv?

13-07-2004, 03:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
mds303 Under Construction Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 61 Rep Power:	Cheers LM, its hust that i didnt know much about 5AA and what it does.

24-07-2004, 08:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	Hi Guys, Well, it's been one week since I started the 4AD transdermal and the 5AA oral at 500mgs and 200mgs a day respectively. And....nothing major to report so far, a little oilier skin, quicker temper (but now I recognise that I can control it-ie not snap the wifes head off!!!) But, I tried a XL sized shirt on in a shop yesterday and the top two buttons were pulling across my chest and Ihad to 'help' the sleeves up....so something must be happening! The 5AA has pretty much the same effect as ephedra minus the shakes and 'wired' feeling, but seems to be v good at promoting focus, drive and determination this is why I am using quite a small dose about 1hr before training. The transdermal 4AD was a right BITCH to mix - I don't think I heated the gel long enough first and I just chucked 7.5g of 4AD into it and shook it....result : grainy solution. So, a couple of reheats and shakes and it seems to be fairly well suspended but still quite grainy. The next one I'm going to heat for at least ten minutes and add the 4AD a little at a time shaking and reheating as I go. I haven't changed my diet or training which are both pretty good (IMHO) but I have had a couple of 'bad days' - crap food and a couple of beers...Bad LM!!!! So, one more week to go until I throw the M1T in - I'm gonna run this at 10mg a day instead of the 5mg as originally planned just to try and get some extra size on in the last two weeks. I'll post again next weekend if that's OK with everyone? Thanks for reading!

26-07-2004, 12:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	Hi Natural, No, I haven't taken any specific measurements - I'm going on how I look in the mirror and what my friends/colleagues say and how my clothes fit. I know this sounds flaky but I am quite happy with 'measuring' the effectiveness of these compounds this way. Hopefully, once my cycle has ended and I have completed PCT I will be in a better position to advise or make suggestions/comments on this cycle. I understand why people like to see measurements etc but IMHO everyone will respond different and therefore what one person experiences another may not and then a slanging match could ensue. Thanks Bud and I'm not very jealous of you being in Orlando!!!

26-07-2004, 08:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	i am lol, look forward to hering the comments mate, will be very interesting, couple of crap days,self disiplin, get the most from your cycle you got any future cycles planned,the thought must have crossed your mind. is there still no noticeable gains?