Anyone ever used M1T???

mark · 24-06-2004, 02:17 PM

I have read so much about this stuff - was even thinking of giving it ago one day.

Just wondered how many other people have actually used it?

Anonymous · 24-06-2004, 09:44 PM

Hi Mark,

Just waiting on mine to arrive and then it's gonna be full steam ahead!

mark · 25-06-2004, 09:15 AM

Yeah I'm gunna give it a go aswell. I have heard that like any PH's you need to eat like a horse to get the best results from M1t.

Which brand are you going for?
What you using as PCT?
How long you running it for?
Worried about side effects?

Keep us informed of how you go with it.

toggsy · 25-06-2004, 12:05 PM

I have had a two week cycle with M1T.

Dont think I really ate enough while using it though. I did find that my lifts seemed to be stronger. Dont know how much of that was in my head though!

I am going to start another cycle again soon as the last time was the first time that i had ever tried anything like that, and i know now what sort of training/diet i need along side it.

Anonymous · 25-06-2004, 04:52 PM

Hi Mark,

I'm gonna run 30 days total.

15 days of 4AD transdermal @ 8ml per day
15 days of M1T oral @ 5mg per day for 7 days and 10mg per day for 8 days (depending on sides)

With maybe 30 days of 5AA oral @ 200mg per day thrown in - not sure just yet.

Then run 30 days of nolva as PCT.

I'll try and up my calories a bit during and after this but I am going to try it primarily as a muscle gain and fat loss stack

During the whole of this I will also be taking in milk thistle, NAC, flax, cod liver oil, GLA, high strength vit c, high strength vit b complex and multi vits and drinking a load of water and cranberry juice.
I've got some hawthorn berry in case my BP goes through the roof along with St Johns' Wort and e/c/a if my BP's OK but I get the lethargy...
Oh, I've also stopped drinking a couple of months back just to be safe.

To be honest mate, I am concerned with sides - esp. liver/kidney but also acne (which I am prone to anyway) so that is why I'm going for quite a small dose and quite a bit of supplemental protection.

The brand is a inhouse combo from a company based in the States and am still waiting for it to arrive.

Anonymous · 25-06-2004, 04:53 PM

Hi Toggsy,

Welcome to the board.

When you ran your cycle what doseage were you taking?
Did you see any mass increases?

toggsy · 25-06-2004, 05:22 PM

Hi, Thanks for the welcome.

I was taking 10mg everyday for 2 weeks. I didnt notice any sides doing it this way - but everyone is different.

I noticed a little bit of mass - but not much, prob coz i didnt eat enough. I think this can be a good product if you find the correct balance for yourself.

I also ran milk thistle for safety.

Let us know how you get on wuth your cycle.

Anonymous · 25-06-2004, 07:04 PM

the results should be interesting

mark · 07-07-2004, 12:57 PM

Right - I am seriosly thinking of strating my M1T cycle soon. Is there anything that I can take to help reduce the amount of water retention that you get from it?

Anonymous · 09-07-2004, 06:54 AM

Hi Mark,

Apparently M1T does not cause water retention - I don't understand how this can be...if we introduce exogenous testosterone into our bodies then the bodies natural oestrogen production should rise to 'balance' the increase in testosterone...therefore, water bloat could be an issue?

We could try diuretics but as M1T is supposedly quite harsh on the liver and possibly the kidneys then IMHO these would just place extra strain on these organs - not good.

Personally I've got some nolva on hand for any oestrogen related side effects and will stop the M1T if these appear.

Apologies for not answering your question Mark but I hope ths helps in some small way!

Finally would you be running the M1T solo or as part of a stack?

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24-06-2004, 09:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	Hi Mark, Just waiting on mine to arrive and then it's gonna be full steam ahead!

25-06-2004, 09:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
mark Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: England Posts: 365 Rep Power:	Yeah I'm gunna give it a go aswell. I have heard that like any PH's you need to eat like a horse to get the best results from M1t. Which brand are you going for? What you using as PCT? How long you running it for? Worried about side effects? Keep us informed of how you go with it.

25-06-2004, 12:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
toggsy Under Construction Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Exeter Posts: 29 Rep Power:	I have had a two week cycle with M1T. Dont think I really ate enough while using it though. I did find that my lifts seemed to be stronger. Dont know how much of that was in my head though! I am going to start another cycle again soon as the last time was the first time that i had ever tried anything like that, and i know now what sort of training/diet i need along side it.

25-06-2004, 04:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	Hi Mark, I'm gonna run 30 days total. 15 days of 4AD transdermal @ 8ml per day 15 days of M1T oral @ 5mg per day for 7 days and 10mg per day for 8 days (depending on sides) With maybe 30 days of 5AA oral @ 200mg per day thrown in - not sure just yet. Then run 30 days of nolva as PCT. I'll try and up my calories a bit during and after this but I am going to try it primarily as a muscle gain and fat loss stack During the whole of this I will also be taking in milk thistle, NAC, flax, cod liver oil, GLA, high strength vit c, high strength vit b complex and multi vits and drinking a load of water and cranberry juice. I've got some hawthorn berry in case my BP goes through the roof along with St Johns' Wort and e/c/a if my BP's OK but I get the lethargy... Oh, I've also stopped drinking a couple of months back just to be safe. To be honest mate, I am concerned with sides - esp. liver/kidney but also acne (which I am prone to anyway) so that is why I'm going for quite a small dose and quite a bit of supplemental protection. The brand is a inhouse combo from a company based in the States and am still waiting for it to arrive.

25-06-2004, 04:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	Hi Toggsy, Welcome to the board. When you ran your cycle what doseage were you taking? Did you see any mass increases?

25-06-2004, 05:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
toggsy Under Construction Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Exeter Posts: 29 Rep Power:	Hi, Thanks for the welcome. I was taking 10mg everyday for 2 weeks. I didnt notice any sides doing it this way - but everyone is different. I noticed a little bit of mass - but not much, prob coz i didnt eat enough. I think this can be a good product if you find the correct balance for yourself. I also ran milk thistle for safety. Let us know how you get on wuth your cycle.

25-06-2004, 07:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	the results should be interesting

07-07-2004, 12:57 PM	#9 (permalink)
mark Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: England Posts: 365 Rep Power:	Right - I am seriosly thinking of strating my M1T cycle soon. Is there anything that I can take to help reduce the amount of water retention that you get from it?

09-07-2004, 06:54 AM	#10 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	Hi Mark, Apparently M1T does not cause water retention - I don't understand how this can be...if we introduce exogenous testosterone into our bodies then the bodies natural oestrogen production should rise to 'balance' the increase in testosterone...therefore, water bloat could be an issue? We could try diuretics but as M1T is supposedly quite harsh on the liver and possibly the kidneys then IMHO these would just place extra strain on these organs - not good. Personally I've got some nolva on hand for any oestrogen related side effects and will stop the M1T if these appear. Apologies for not answering your question Mark but I hope ths helps in some small way! Finally would you be running the M1T solo or as part of a stack?