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| Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power: ![]() | Hey Guys, I know AST get a bit of a bashing but last year I done 8 weeks of their 3 Andro Xtreme and really liked it. Same as Steve my strength went up along with focus, determination, a little bit of aggresion My next foray is 4 weeks of transdermal 4AD and 2 weeks of M1T (if it ever arrives from the US!) - I'll hopefully get a log going here (if the lethargy isn't too bad!!!) |
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| Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The Gym Posts: 269 Rep Power: ![]() | Have you noticed guys anything that seems to work well baring Creatine and Protein supplements becomes banned? I think they ought to leave us to it, if we die from it then thats our faults (hopefully it diesnt happen) but shouldnt it be up to us if we want to take a product or not and this should include Steroids and other illegal products, if we want to take them we should be allowed to (its our bodies) and if we want to shift that last bit of fat then Ephidrine or Clen should be available in the shops as to things like Steroids and these 3 Andro Xtreme etc that people want to take. Can you all see my point? ![]() |
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| Making Progress | TJ, I reckon because the IOC,IFBB etc have so much clout and because high profile names in the sporting world, have attempted to gain unfair advantage, its the people like us who suffer, it's 1 rule for 1 and another rule for another. I may be wrong but that is my theory. Dave. |
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| Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power: ![]() | Bump to TJ. However, these are strong, hormonal changing drugs - not supplements but drugs (IMHO) which need to be treated with respect and care. Unfortunately due to the lack of self policing within the industry these compounds are available to everyone - any age - experience etc. with just a small disclaimer on the product packaging and as a consequence people will/have taken these compounds with no knowledge of what they are doing/taking - it's these people who have helped to bring the ban to a head. This ban pretty much mirrors the ephedra ban - one baseball player died after ingesting quite a bit of ephedra, didn't eat for a couple of hours, took in minimal water and then went and played baseball in 100 degree + heat. Whilst it is very sad that this athlete lost his life and I genuinely feel for his friends and family we also need to see the flip side - not all ephedra use is dangerous and banning it will push the product underground but more worrying IMO is the useage of things like usnic acid, DNP, thyroid drugs and clen by people who have not researched the compound they are taking - you know "Well ECA was OK at 100mg a day, I'll jump straight onto 200mcg Clen a day...I'll be OK" Right putting my soapbox away now, thanks for reading! |
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| Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The Gym Posts: 269 Rep Power: ![]() | LM, Thats right mate those in the spot light who have abused the product and died or become ill from not taking it propley have more than likely created this ban on the things we want to take. As I say I hope that people don't die from taking whatever products they want to enhance their bodies (whether drugs i.e. Clen, DNP etc or Steroids to cut or build a better body), but it should be available to all those who want it and it's up to that individual to research the product they want to take and make sure they get the best from it. |
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