Hey Ho lets go!!!

ch8mp1

hey, thanks for the replies!! and any suggestions would be great!!!

i'm aware that the 10am and 4pm meals are terrible... But the thing is i am either at work or in a lecture at those times and i can't exactly sit and eat a grilled chicken at these times.

As for my training split, I have no arguments for mixing it up!!

Young Gun

Thats just wrong Milks glycemic index value is 32

ch8mp1

Does this sound any better...

Wed: Chest/biceps
Thurs : Back/triceps
Sat: Shoulders
Sun: Legs

The reason for putting biceps with chest instead of triceps is because after doing chest 1st i feel i can't do the close grip press properly.

What you think?

Ali M

thats a lot better mate, at least your listening which is more than some tall people do.

Nath

I like a three day split:
1.Chest, upper back and Biceps.
2.Shoulders and triceps
3.Lower back and legs.

Trouble with my routine is that it means I'm training 5-6 times a week and get accused of having no life lol. =)

ch8mp1

what do you guys think of protein bars? Could that be a possibility instead of a shake?

Nath

Watch out mate, ur potentially rattling a hornets nest there!! I think the protein arguement has been raging on this board for ages!

I personally will chew a protein bar if i can't get access to any other food. But when u can whip up smoked salmon and scrambled eggs in a matter of moments, why eat anything else

Ali M

Protein bars are fine mate, no problems with them. However you mentioned bulking and i dont really think a protein bar is going to put any bulk on you.

I think you might be better with say 2 scoops of whey as this will be cheaper than a protein bar and then have something like 2 bananas and a turkey salad sandwich. Or 2 scoops of whey and 3 weatabix.

You have to remember you have say 5 to 6 meals to get excess calories down you per day. so if you want say 3000 calories per day then devide this by say 5 or 6 (3000 devided by 6 = 500 calories per meal) so we now know 2 scoops of whey and 2 bananas are not going to get you there, where as add a turkey salad in a brown bap just might.

Dont forget the trick is find out what your maintenace calories are, average for a male is 2000 but were all dif. If your maintenace calories are 2000 then you just need to add 500to this and see how you respond and if need be add another 500 a few months down the line.

Nath

Blimey, is 2000 the average male calorie intake for maintanance?? I eat WAY more than that I reckon.
Also mate remember, if ur training hard ur prob burning loads of calories so will need to add even more.

Young Gun

The point is that generally accepted reasoning based on recovery and its importance is that you want to allow your muscles as much time to recover as possible after they have been worked. So grouping muscles together that usually function together ie Push/pull routines are popular. You want to do Chest tri's because if you have trained intensely enough you'll have a better chance of doing close grips on the same day as chest than you will the day after and also this is a more likely precursor to hypertrophy.

Just swap tri's and bi's on the days as its the same principle for back and bi's. Ie you can't work your back without working your bi's