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| Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The White House. But I'm moving soon. Posts: 2,338 Rep Power: ![]() | As my diet and training routine has changed recently, I decided to start a new log. Previous routine: 2 day split, going b@lls to the wall, eating upto 5kcals per day. Pros: Packed on some good muscle Cons: Stomach got swollen from all the serious eating. New Routine (Push/Pull/Legs) (Note - Every exercise will have a warmup set.) Legs Leg Extensions - 2x Triple Drop Set Leg Press - 2x 20 Reps plus 5/5/5 Matrix Leg Curls - 3 x 20 Reps Calves: Triple Drop Set Push Flat DB Flies: 2x 15-20 Reps Incline DB Bench: 2x 15-20 Reps Military Press: 1 x 15-20 Reps Side Lateral DB Raises: 2 x 15 Reps Lying DB Raises: 2 x 15-20 Reps Tricep Pushdowns: 2x 15 Reps plus 5/5/5 Matrix Pull Straight Arm Pulldowns: 2x 15-20 Reps Lat Pulldowns: 2 x 15-20 Reps Bent Over Rows: 2x 15-20 Reps Shrugs: 2x 15-20 Reps DB Bicep Curls: 2x 15-20 Reps Deadlifts every second week. New goals are slightly different - I want to gain a nice shape while staying relatively lean all year round. |
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| Legend Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 847 Rep Power: ![]() | Hello Sir... interesting training routine you got going there dude, couple of questions for you, do you feel that the muscle gets a good workout? you don't seem to be doing much for shoulders do you feel that they are getting a good workout? P.s. i like the look of putting the pulls together and pushes together, do you feel that you have benefited better from this unaurthodoxed style of training? ______________________ Back on the mend, after 2 mths off with injuries im starting back beginning of May. Ill need an operation later on in the year though.... |
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| Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The White House. But I'm moving soon. Posts: 2,338 Rep Power: ![]() | Quote:
Push/Pull/Legs is a fairly common 3day split. Now the routine I didn't design - Pikey did that for me. Pikey will prob dive in and explain better than me but he's what I understood from what he told me. Basically everything is to failure - so weight selection is very important. I'm using moderate weight for reps to try and stimulate growth. Everything is done very intensely which is important. I looked at the routine and thought it would be fairly easy. Simply put - I was wrong. Leg day I can barely walk afterwards (but in a good way) and I've never had a chest workout as good as the push day. Still need to do his pull day which will be tonight (had to shift training around a bit this week) With the moderate weights and going for reps, I'm pre-exhausting the muscle and then using a variety of exercises to ensure as much of each are of the muscle is stimulated as possible. I've never done pre-exhausts before but I tell you what they are much harder than I thought. Shoulders are getting more work that before mate (they were lagging a bit) in the form of: Military Press Side Lateral DB Raises Lying DB Raises and Shrugs To be honest I would never have picked this routine for myself - but when a bloke of Pikey's experience designs a training schedule for you personally its time to listen and learn... I like doing the big lifts cos its a good ego boost. This routine leaves the ego at the door seriously... I ended up having to do a drop set on the last set of incline DB presses where I was only using 16kg dumbs for 5reps... Lying DB raises were done with the girly silver 6kg dumbs... The routine gets each muscle to failure and makes you keep going... | |
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| Making Progress Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Near Chesterfield Posts: 522 Rep Power: ![]() | I normally aim to fail something above 15 reps certainly on the first working set as it just stimulates me better – we’re all different the key is to keep experimenting till you find what works for you. Last set is highly likely to be 6-8 reps and probably with the same weight… Anything less than 20 on legs and I seem to build mass but not quality – I know different things but I’ll grow on 20 plus and my legs look better. My ex training partner had to work on sub 8 reps else he just lost muscle – everyone’s different and while he’s a top bloke it’s why we don’t train together anymore. The reason I started with pre exhaust is that after 25 years of heavy compound and Weightlifting exercises my joints were continually sore I’d more niggly injuries than I could shake a stick at and I found it very difficult to focus my mind into a muscle while doing compound as opposed to focusing on moving the weight. I’d say to anyone give it a go for a month and see how it goes but don’t stagnate I think its key to keep changing and not fall into the rut of the same old exercises with the same weight for the same reps… |
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| Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The White House. But I'm moving soon. Posts: 2,338 Rep Power: ![]() | Progress is definitely the key. I'll bear that in mind about the last set and adjust the weight accordingly. I had guessed that pre-exhaust work would reduce the risk of injuries but didn't know if it was a definite so kept quiet |
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| Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The White House. But I'm moving soon. Posts: 2,338 Rep Power: ![]() | Evening training session today... Which meant... You guessed it - deadlifts Straight Arm Pulldowns: Warm up + 15 & 8 @ 26kg Deadlifts: 10 @ 80kg 5 @ 80kg 3 @ 120kg 3 @ 140kg 3 @ 150kg 1 @ 162.5kg - was aiming for 2/3 reps but some bigger boys went and did DB Bench behind where I was lifting which put me off... 162.5kg however is a PB Lat Pulldowns: Warm Up + 15, 12 @ 56kg Bent Over Rows: 5 @ 50kg - and stopped. Couldn't get the motion right. Seated Rows: 15, 12 @ 59kg Shrugs: 12, 10 @ 35kg per DB Negative DB Bicep Curls 10 (per arm) @ 26kg Incline DB Curls 10 (per arm) @ 10kg Bi's had hit failure on the Heavy negatives so added light Incline DB Curls in to finish them off. Deadlifts every second week. |
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| Legend Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 847 Rep Power: ![]() | Something strange you say pikey put your programme together and apart from the high reps it looks solid, now i understand the first set been light to failure as i do this as a warm up but then as pikey said my last set ill aim for max 8 reps to complete failure and yeah the muscle will be pre exhausted. Question for you TH&S why are your last sets not as pikeys are i.e. 8 reps? not picking here, im reading this with interest and thinking of changing over to it, however id have to tinker with it as i dont like the high reps, each to there own on that. ______________________ Back on the mend, after 2 mths off with injuries im starting back beginning of May. Ill need an operation later on in the year though.... |
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| Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The White House. But I'm moving soon. Posts: 2,338 Rep Power: ![]() | Howdee mate. It was the first time I'd done the routine so I'm still trying to get the weights set correctly. Just needs a slight adjustment of perhaps 5kg per exercise and I'll be there next week I think. |
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