Pikey's progress

Tall

Your diet would def come in handy - sometimes I just need ideas for meals etc

Pikey

LMAO I’m not sure about inspiration for meals my diet has a certain… erm …monotony. I like to keep it simple though as it’s easy to adjust carb values and there’s no hidden sources of sodium etc I just find it easier this way
All meat weight is cooked, carb sources are pre cooked i.e. rice dry weight. All veg is fresh

Meal 1 - 12 egg whites cooked in a dry frying pan, 100g oats in water, 1 grapefruit
Meal 2 - 100gram 90% Whey mixed with water
Meal 3 - 250gram Turkey or chicken breast, 200gram baked spud, salad, no dressing etc
Meal 4 – same as meal 2
Meal 5 - 250gram Turkey or chicken breast, 50g basmati rice, maybe some broccoli or cauliflower
Meal 6 – Post workout Whey same as meal 2
Meal 7 -250 gram Turkey or chicken breast, 200gram baked spud, fresh broccoli.

Drinks - black coffee normally strength 5 and let it brew, black tea or water, diet ginger beer is my treat.

Supplements – Cantamega 2K multi vit and mineral, digestive enzymes, 3 gram vit C spread across the day, Omega oils and soluble fibre.

Tall

Firstly - sweet, I love my whey and have been getting some jip on a few places for having circa 300g per day of whey.

My response has always been - it works for me, I'm growing and getting stronger.

Very clean diet mate. Strength 5 coffee? Do you have those Flavia things at work too?

circa 450g of protein is good going mate - I try and get that in, but have been failing a bit at the moment - no microwave access during work hours

Pikey

I have access most days to a microwave but don't use it, all solid meals but the last one are prepared first thing and then ket in tupperware boxes in a cool bag.
My pallet has changed over the last two years and now I prefer most food cold :-)...

Tall

I struggle to eat 250g of cold chicken never mind 750g!

Bodyworks

TH&S, ever heard the theory that ingesting whey throughout the day has a negative effect ?

Tall

Nope? Negative in what 'whey' mate?

Bodyworks

ba dum dum. i'm not saying i agree wholeheartedly with this, bit the theory goes along the lines of, whey is rapidly absorbed into the bloodstream where it is then available to provide the muscle cells with the tools with which they can repair themselves from the damage induced by your workout. this process happens at a speed governed by your metabolic rate, not by the amount of protein consumed. keeping it simple, (it has to be for me to understand it) consuming too much rapidly absorbed whey, ie. more than your body can use at any specific time, causes the ph level of your blood to move to being more acidic, which in turn causes a temporarily catabolic state. this is the reason many supplement companies in recent years have developed protein shakes using a blend of fast and slower absorbtion proteins, rather than just the 100% whey stuff.
like i say, i don't know if this is true, but it's what i was told several years ago by a very knowledgeable fella. have your whey shakes, 1st thing in the morning, straight before and/or after training and that's it. after that, opt for slower absorbing proteins.

or in my case, just eat food. it's nice, no really it is.

Tall

Firstly - appologies for me referring to Whey as just Whey.

I use a blend of WPI and Casein so I get the 'timed' protein release you were on about.

I think you are right in what you are saying about too much rapidly absorbed Whey not being as beneficial.

I eat alot of food too - but for example if I eat 750g of lean mince, I only get 150g of protein for my troubles. Dont get me wrong, I love mince, but it does get quite difficult.

I'm currently at 250lbs and eating about 400-500g of protein per day which is working for me. Gone from 16st 5lbs to 18st and dropped BF% by 3% since I joined the board. But I dare say that not everyone would have the same results.

I have a breakfast shake, a midday shake and an evening shake normally.

Just sat trying to get some cold chicken and some cheese down my neck now

Good post though dude - very detailed. I might have to goto the dark side and try eating fish

(Pikey - sorry for the thread hijack!)

Pikey

Hey no worries guys, makes it more interesting, I was beginning to think no one would post any replies…..I use a blended product too for everything but the post workout drink but always call it Whey out of habit I guess.

On the subject of protein supplements what I do find questionable is how every month some new product is advertised in the mainstream bodybuilding magazines that makes the others obsolete – or so the blurb says… can’t help think that’s marketing. Being deliberately controversial here but many products do seem outrageously expensive, and while we’ve all heard whey is going up in price....

Now fish is ok but don’t you find it makes the whole place smell when cooking it and have you ever tried cold cod and rice in tupperware…lovely…not…

Off to train Hamstrings and have some Whey ;-)