Fierce's First Cycle

devilsquest · 02-03-2006, 05:36 PM

nice

Andy1981iron · 02-03-2006, 05:38 PM

All good just a few points mate.

4 shakes will still do the job (I'm similar) but be prepared to have a couple of bouts of bad bloating, wind and semi diahrea during your 12 week cycle.

Nolva will not stop estrogen related water retention, only gyno!

Young Gun · 02-03-2006, 05:57 PM

Nolva is not needed throughout and is slightly hepatoxic so not a great idea to run it when running dbol.

Wait and see if you get gyno. Its not like it sets in and shit your ****ed, its 100% self treatable by anyone with half a brain plus well in time of noticing syptoms plus your gona have to run nolva every cycle if you do it this way. And it will do **** all for bloat as Andy says. Adex or proviron if your concerned.

FierceFrets · 02-03-2006, 07:39 PM

I only decided to do the Nolva throughout on the advice of a couple of guys on here! I cant remember who they were though... :?

Fair enough. I'll leave it for a while and see what happens. I'm not paranoid about getting gyno, it just made sense to prevent it rather than wait for the symptoms.

I cant remember where I read about Nolva helping with water but maybe I got it a little mixed up

******** edited **********

AH! Found it! Sounds to me like opinions differ!! What do you think?

Some big names in that thread who think im right

http://www.musclechat.co.uk/viewtopi...ater+retention

:twisted: Fierce

Young Gun · 02-03-2006, 07:59 PM

point taken I now am doing nolva at 10mg every other day

FierceFrets · 02-03-2006, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young Gun

point taken I now am doing nolva at 10mg every other day

Really? I've influenced The Young Gun? Cool

:twisted: Fierce

Young Gun · 02-03-2006, 08:05 PM

Yep I am definitely not a guy who wont take advice from people mate, good thread.

FierceFrets · 02-03-2006, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young Gun

point taken I now am doing nolva at 10mg every other day

Any reason why your doing 10mg every other day? its half the dose I'm on.

I'm doing 10mg every day, although i'm actually taking a 20mg tab every other day.

:twisted: Fierce

Darren · 02-03-2006, 09:08 PM

i have read a lot of cycles doing Nolva at 20mg a day throughtout to keep Gyno at bay.......i think when it is time for me to do a cycle i was thinking on the same lines of you with the Nolva.

I have also heard that if you use Proviron with Nolva it will harden muscle & stop water retention & Gyno...is this true?

Young Gun · 02-03-2006, 09:50 PM

yep sorry typo.

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02-03-2006, 05:36 PM	#21 (permalink)
devilsquest Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,143 Rep Power:	nice

02-03-2006, 05:38 PM	#22 (permalink)
Andy1981iron Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hull Posts: 833 Rep Power:	All good just a few points mate. 4 shakes will still do the job (I'm similar) but be prepared to have a couple of bouts of bad bloating, wind and semi diahrea during your 12 week cycle. Nolva will not stop estrogen related water retention, only gyno!

02-03-2006, 05:57 PM	#23 (permalink)
Young Gun Illuminati Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,539 Rep Power:	Nolva is not needed throughout and is slightly hepatoxic so not a great idea to run it when running dbol. Wait and see if you get gyno. Its not like it sets in and shit your **ed, its 100% self treatable by anyone with half a brain plus well in time of noticing syptoms plus your gona have to run nolva every cycle if you do it this way. And it will do ** all for bloat as Andy says. Adex or proviron if your concerned.

02-03-2006, 07:39 PM	#24 (permalink)
FierceFrets Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London Posts: 704 Rep Power:	I only decided to do the Nolva throughout on the advice of a couple of guys on here! I cant remember who they were though... :? Fair enough. I'll leave it for a while and see what happens. I'm not paranoid about getting gyno, it just made sense to prevent it rather than wait for the symptoms. I cant remember where I read about Nolva helping with water but maybe I got it a little mixed up ****** edited ******** AH! Found it! Sounds to me like opinions differ!! What do you think? Some big names in that thread who think im right http://www.musclechat.co.uk/viewtopi...ater+retention :twisted: Fierce

02-03-2006, 07:59 PM	#25 (permalink)
Young Gun Illuminati Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,539 Rep Power:	point taken I now am doing nolva at 10mg every other day

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Young Gun Illuminati Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,539 Rep Power:	Yep I am definitely not a guy who wont take advice from people mate, good thread.

02-03-2006, 09:08 PM	#29 (permalink)
Darren Making Progress Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Crosby, Liverpool Posts: 225 Rep Power:	i have read a lot of cycles doing Nolva at 20mg a day throughtout to keep Gyno at bay.......i think when it is time for me to do a cycle i was thinking on the same lines of you with the Nolva. I have also heard that if you use Proviron with Nolva it will harden muscle & stop water retention & Gyno...is this true?

02-03-2006, 09:50 PM	#30 (permalink)
Young Gun Illuminati Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,539 Rep Power:	yep sorry typo.