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Old 10-02-2006, 12:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Madmonkeys quest to get bigger....

I have been off the gear for over 6 months now due to the fact that my girlfriend wants a baby! so now 6months and 100's of 2minute sessions later i have finally managed the job
So now i am allowed to have another dabble i have set myself a course and some goals which i will go through later.

Brief history.

I have done a few shows 4-5 years ago which is where i learnt that i don't have the best genetics in the world and that i would not make a living out of it that is when i made the decision just to get big!(i did say it would be brief so thats the history over!)

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course start date 6/2/06
age 32
height 6'0
weight 18.0st
waist 34"
BF 16-17%

Training

monday-back and biceps(evening)

tuesday-cardio(morning)

wednesday-chest and triceps(evening)

thurday-legs, calfs and stomach(morning)

friday-shoulders(morning or evening depending on shift)

saturday-off

sunday-off


this training routine i find fits my busy lifestyle.

General Diet

where i put protein drink down this consist of the following...

70-100g oats
1xlow fat yogurt
1xbanana
large spoon of peanut butter
large spoon of honey
1 pint of water
1 sachet of Myoplex
1 heaped spoon of whey protein

breakfast-protein drink
lunch-sandwiches and fruit and a pint of semi skimmed milk
mid-afternoon-protein drink
tea-chicken and rice(or similar)
2hrs later-protein drink
before bed-protein drink

through out the day i drink water with vitc 1000mg dissolved in it and snack on rice cakes.

Juice or gear(depending on how old you are )

regarding this topic i will post what i am going to take on aweekly basis as i cant be bothered to type it all out..

week1


1000mg enanatate
400mg decca(extraboline)
600mg test300
1 nap50 aday
20mg tamoxifen aday may adjust as needed.

Aims

my initial aim is to get to anywhere between 19-20stone within the first2-3months with about the same BF if this is possible :?: which is an increase of 14-28lbs which i think is possible and i will keep you informed on my progress on a weekly basis.
i look forward to hearing any comments positive or negative.

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hey madmonkey

your obviously a well experienced guy so i wont try and be patronising - i think your diet is a little flawed, lets take a look:

breakfast-protein drink
lunch-sandwiches and fruit and a pint of semi skimmed milk
mid-afternoon-protein drink
tea-chicken and rice(or similar)
2hrs later-protein drink
before bed-protein drink

here you have 6 meals, how many of them are drinks and how many are plates of food?

your doing 4 liquid meal vs 2 real food meals, I would probably try to flip that round and have 2 liquid and 4 real if I was you? Your chicken and rice dish, just make 3 times the amount and split over 3 meals perhaps....

Looks like you hve got it covered, its a lot of gear in that stack too

well done on slipping one past the goalie

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thanks for your comments Nick, i would love to eat me solid foods but i only have a small apertite and also due to my very busy lifestyle i would not get the chance to eat the amount i would need too so the only other option is to have the drinks which i have found in the past to work for me and help me to consume the amount of calories needed to achieve my aims.

The boss always pass's comment on me having a rice cake permanately in my gob.

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Nick you have so much time to prepare proper food you student you! Hopefully I will come september.

I'm exactly the same as you monkey. I tend to get a lot of my calories from shakes, not so much for lack of appetite but as I'm a lazy bugger! I try to get three solid meals in but I don't always manage that. I know it's not ideal but it works.

My training routine is also very similar to yours.
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Old 10-02-2006, 02:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Glad to hear you did the buisness for your misses

That seem a high dosage of enanatate but there again you do know what your doing.

Will you do a log & let us know how your doing

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i will do an update every week regarding weight and how i feel etc and any strength gains.
Regarding high dosage i believe in starting off on high dosage and then tapering off before switching drugs to shock the system again and help maintain any increases in size.

My partner(training) and i have just finished an 8 week power/strength traing programme and have increased our strength considrably(spelt wrong) and have brought all the basic exercises from that course in to a more BB routine which we will do for 10 weeks before again swapping back to the strength and power routine.

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Update

Right i'm now at the end of week 1 in to my quest and i have put on 8lb im now 18.8st in my boxers (not a pretty sight).
i feel thicker and have thickened out alot on my shoulders and arms, my apertite the last few days has gone right down and im finding myself forcing the shakes and food down and i have a bloated feeling most of the time :cry: .

Bad points

with the quick weight increase my body is struggling to handle the extra weight and im getting out of breath quite quickly but this should change once im use to carrying the extra weight going on past experience.
For the first time in 12 years of gear i decided to jab my legs :cry: and i wish i had not! i did 1 shot in each quad on the saturday and i had to cancel my back traing yesterday due to the pain i was having in each leg and ended up just doing biceps :cry: the pain has now started to subside so its back to usual.

Week2

Gear wise this is going to be the same as week1 in every way with no change, im hoping to gain another 3-5lb+ this week as the body keeps reacting to the shock of the gear in my system from week 1 and it starts to kick in properly.

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Update

weighed in last night at 19.2st another increase of 8lb giving me a total increase of 16lb in just over 2 weeks

Training has improved with my weights going up on every exercise and PB on almost everything. My breathing has got slightly better and im feeling very good and full all of the time and holding the pump

On the other side of the coin, i have notice the blood preassure when i bend over to tie my laces and i come back up with a big red face ops: the occasional mild head ache and im still breathing heavier than what i was before i started the course but not as bad as last week.
A lot of my clothes have either shrunk or i have grown as i cant fit in to some of them. I have now got the stereo typical moon face or hamster joules as they are sometimes reffered to.

Gear.

The same as week 1 and 2 but i have swapped the Nap50's for a homebrew product by the name of triple x which is doing the rounds here in the northwest with good reviews.
I have also added 4iu of GH with 2iu first thing in the morning and 2iu before i go to bed this has made me feel very sleepy all day with the introduction of the GH i haope this will reduce my BF over the next couple of months and help me keep the size and weight :? if thats possible!

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1600mg test....wow!

Certainly packing the weight on, but watch that blood pressure! Have you had it checked?

High Blood Pressure - "the Silent Killer" - a true story

I thought that I would share this with you all so hopefully you can avoid what has happened to me.

High blood pressure is often called the silent killer because often it displays no symptoms and can lead to stroke and heart disease.

First, a little background info on myself. I am 44, 510, 225 lbs. Approx. 12 14 % bf.
Have being training for 12 yrs, last 4 very serious. Have done 2 cycles, last on consisting was;

Wk 1 3, 100 mg Testolents EOD
Wk 1-9, 300 mg Organon Deca
Wk 1-10, 558 mg Testoviron Depot
Wk 7 -12, 50 mg Zambon winny every 36 hours
1 mg armidex EOD

About half way through this cycle, I started getting short of breath & noticed a slight tightening in my chest. No big deal I thought, maybe just bordering on over training.

Two weeks after above cycle ended, shortness of breath was pretty well gone, but the tightening sensation in my chest was a little more pronounced, so I made a visit to the Medi Centre to get things checked. My bp was 170/100. He sent me for chest x-rays and an ECG that day, as well as starting me on bp meds. The results took about a week to come back, x-ray was ok. ECG was abnormal. Bp now was 160/110. An appointment was scheduled with a Internal Med Specialist to get a stress test done as well as he started me on a beta-blocker.

To make a long story short, I had a nuclear stress test done that showed that my left ventricle was enlarged. The specialist figures that the high bp , combined with heavy lifting (increases bp too) caused this. Steroids never entered into the conversation at all. Basically in laymens terms this means at present my heart is only working at 66% efficiency.

He also told me that if we keep my bp under control, start some cardio and ease up on the weights, that my heart should return to normal. But the more that this enlargement happens, the weaker the heart muscle becomes, eventually leading to congestive heart failure.

I guess the moral of this story is, it is very, very important to monitor your blood pressure, whether on cycle or not. They dont call it the silent killer for nothing.
I would highly recommend that everyone invest in a bp machine and religiously monitor their bp. I just got a top of the line model and it only cost $110 Cdn, a very small price to pay as compared to ones life.

BTW, I have never had high bp before and I dont blame steroids, this could have happened without ever touching AAS, which makes checking your bp whether on cycle or not very important.
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thanks Andy for that useful information, i will get it checked out either today or tomorrow as my girlfriend is a nurse so she can do it for me. To be honest everytime i have ever done a course i have always had that feeling of the BP when i bend over etc but i had always put that down to being on gear :? but i will take on board your points and get it checked out asap and i will post my results.

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