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12-09-2005, 12:36 AM
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 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,230 Rep Power:  |  yeah i know its 1230 now, i wont be asleep til 1 15 probably, then up for 730 for cardio.... just kinda works out like that i'm afraid. missing out on the cardio in the morning is worse for me than the 2 hours extra sleep so i always take the challenge on  nick ______________________ - Obsession is what lazy people call dedication - |
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12-09-2005, 12:51 AM
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| Illuminati  Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nowhere Posts: 2,911 Rep Power:  | did you say when you tried zma that it wasnt beneficial to your workouts,but you did sleep good......i do know where you`re coming from though-working out is the easy bit (if you ask me) it`s the rest of it |
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12-09-2005, 10:57 AM
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| Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,230 Rep Power: | you've got a good point there, i might give zma another pop. i'm at work atm , and i'm so knackered because of last nights not sleeping  nick ______________________ - Obsession is what lazy people call dedication - |
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12-09-2005, 01:00 PM
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| Illuminati Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nowhere Posts: 2,911 Rep Power: | i promise i`m trying to be helpfull not critical--are you training 2x a day-cardio morning and weights in the evening?on 5ish hours sleep-you can be burnin` the candle at both ends without being "on the piss"-i have overtrained many times (even while on ph`s)and most of the maximuscle catalogue(i was workin` nites which didnt help -in the end i was sleeping 10 hours straight-still feeling like shit-and was plagued by injuries-june 03 to jan 04 i could barely walk up hills without pain-my body was a wreck and i couldnt understand it-i still had the spirit,but the flesh was weak(so to speak) :cry: -not training was really stressing me out!in the end i realised something was drastically wrong and decided to go sick from work-which was really difficult as my mum was the boss-even now she doesnt understand why i had to stop working,but she`s been supportive in other ways.i`m still not working(i worked 20 years solid)and although money is tight i have never been happier,stronger or healthier(i smoke?!?!)all the time in the world for rest and recovery-i train a max of 2x a week,or when i`m at the end of my training cycle 1 in 4-5 days-it`s very difficult to restrain myself-if i`m sufficiently recovered i can add 2.5kg to my deadlift every 10 days(i`ll drop to 1lb a week if necessary)-i`ve done this for 6 months without my body breaking down(too much)-20 rep,rest pause set-1 set -once every 10 days!i`m a skinny ****er and you can see they`ve made a difference(i hope  ops: )i cant put on weight -you have a job shifting fat-both totally different,but if you can get your head around :less sometimes being more-abbreviated training-you`ll make natural gains at 21, that at my age i will be lucky to get close to!oh yeah rather than doing singles how about using a formulae for converting 6 reps into 1 rep?or each time you try a single just increase the poundage a little-i know it`s boring,but it`s safer.i try to do cardio-walking on all days except training days and the day after- i dont know if any of this is helpfull :? -just try and listen to your body-party on dude 8) |
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12-09-2005, 02:24 PM
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| Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,230 Rep Power: | hey was kinda hard to keep track of what you just said in there, but i think your inferring that i'm overtraining. Potentially this is true, but when i go to the gym twice a day the morning is solely cardio, and weight is split over 6 days including rest days, so it should be ok. I also eat loads (and probably too much thats why i'm not shedding fat fast enough) But cheers for the advice mate i'll take it onboard Nick ______________________ - Obsession is what lazy people call dedication - |
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13-09-2005, 01:28 PM
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| Illuminati Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nowhere Posts: 2,911 Rep Power: | how many days a week do you do weights?yes i was trying to say politely that i think you are overtraining(or will do)i was trying to explain by my personal example that i was the last person to realise that i was over doing it and that you can force yourself to over do it for a long time-i can see you have factored in all known variables to get optimum growth in the shortest amount of time if you can recover.hmmm -hope you dont mind my input ops: cheers mate! |
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13-09-2005, 10:50 PM
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| Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,230 Rep Power: | gotta say i'm feeling like total shit atm Feel like i've lost zero fat since started cutting 4 - 5 weeks ago, feel like my muscles have got softer and smaller, and my lifts have decreased. Am really out of energy atm probably due to carbs being lower. When i look in the mirror i honestly see just piles of fat and small muscles, like 2 years ago. on a real low morale wise, but sticking to diet and training. hope it picks up, atm i'm trying hard to boost my sleep, making sure i get 8 hours or more per night. Also joined another local club which has a good sauna (still training at bristol uni gym tho) which helps me relax a bit. nick ______________________ - Obsession is what lazy people call dedication - |
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