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11-04-2005, 02:57 PM
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 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: florida usa Posts: 642 Rep Power:  |  my cycle i shouldve done this on my first cycle to keep track but i didnt know jack then, now i know a little more with the help of all the people on this forum. this is the gear im thinking about using for my next cycle. would someone let me know what you think and if you know of anything that i could change to make it work a little better, i want to get the most out of this as do we all. next cycle. weeks 1-12 test prop 100mg ED weeks 1-4 dianabol 50mg ED weeks 1-6 trenbolone 100mg EOD weeks 4-9 deca 400mg/week post cycle days 1-4 nolvadex 60mg ED days 5-10 nolvadex 40mg days 11-16 nolvadex 20mg this is the cycle my buddy and i put together, like i said, we are new at this so any input would be appreciated. thanks again. im going to start this probably the first of next month so i cant wait to watch this log grow! |
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11-04-2005, 08:28 PM
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| Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 331 Rep Power: | Hi mate, 1 - Imho there is no need for tren in that cycle esp if its only your second cycle 2 - decs should be ran from day 1 as it is very slowly released and wont kick in fully until week 3-4. Keep it simple like - wk1-12 - 100mg prop eod wk1-6 30mg dbol ed wk6 -12 50mg winny rd (tabs - eod if injections0 wk1-9 400mg deca pct wk 13 Deca runs to week 9 to allow pct to start at the same time at week 13. Winstrol takes over from dbol at week 6 to help solidify gains. Hope this helps bro Just my opinion btw  |
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11-04-2005, 08:48 PM
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| Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: florida usa Posts: 642 Rep Power: | thank you for the advice. i definately need all the info i can get. question, i have a buddy that is on a similar cycle and he says the tren is giving him heartburn, could this be a side effect? is it common? |
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13-04-2005, 08:43 PM
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| Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: florida usa Posts: 642 Rep Power: | ok, so last night was my first night back in the gym in about a month and a half. i got laryngitis (dont know if i spelled that right) and it put me out of work for two weeks and ive been getting over a bad cough since. so last night was really my first night in since the end of my cycle, which was only 8 weeks. i made what i would call impressive gains on cycle, about 30 lbs on my bench, a good 45-50 lbs over what i could do with bi's and tri's before and nearly half again as much with what i could do on rows and pulldowns. i was worried that being out for so long would have killed my gains but surprisingly enough i matched what i was doing with arms last night. the only difference i noticed was that i didnt have the endurance i did when i was on cycle. another 17 days, give or take, until i start my cycle and im feeling really good about the gym, in fact better than i have before. looking foreward to packing on some size this time. gained about 12 lbs of muscle last time. definately going to monitor my diet more closely, i was taking in a lot of protein but not monitoring carbs as much as i know now that i should have. that having been said i am happy about keeping my gains and am glad i got the ball rolling. more to come. ______________________ that which does not kill me only serves to make me stronger. |
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13-04-2005, 09:18 PM
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| Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Way Out West Posts: 578 Rep Power: | Bump on what Opex said. I'd drop the tren and if you like short esters run NPP instead of deca. You'll need to inject it EOD, but you'll notice the effects within a few days. The sides effects are often less than with deca too. ______________________ IronArena.com |
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13-04-2005, 09:47 PM
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| Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Way Out West Posts: 578 Rep Power: | Nandrolone Phenylpropionate. Think of it as a short ester deca. ______________________ IronArena.com |
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13-04-2005, 11:28 PM
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| Legend  Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Southampton Posts: 697 Rep Power: | I agree with opex too, but IMO I would taper the DBol weekly up to 45mg ED, adding 5MG each week from 30mg. Beware of Test prop, the barrell can sometimes stick and is a bitch to push the plunger down, but definately a good test to use for results and feeling of well being  .J ______________________ 50% of Training is nutrition 50% of Training is not overtraining If you cant gain see the above. |
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13-04-2005, 11:37 PM
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| Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: florida usa Posts: 642 Rep Power: | the plunger sticks injecting? is it thick? im going to be using throw away pins so im not worrying about reusing them if thats what the problem is coming from. just out of curosity while im writing im already trying to figure out the cycle after this one (i know, im a freak) and i have decided im going to run test suspension, and hopefully i can find a source that i can get it from in oil as opposed to water. but i need help building a cycle. im going to run the basics of suspension, deca and dbol, but what else if anything would you recommend. i know suspension is hard core stuff, i just want to do it. my pct will definately be in there too and nolva on hand incase of gyno. so hit me with ideas. ______________________ that which does not kill me only serves to make me stronger. |
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