assistance exersises

saj · 05-04-2005, 04:07 PM

can someone tell me what assistance exersises i need to be doing to increase strength in the powerlifts.
i lift weights 3 times a week, for legs i do squats and leg curls,for back its deadlifts [nothing else] and for chest i do flat bench followed by tricep extensions.my main goal at the moment is increasing strength im not interrested in any shaping/sculpting exersises.i would also like to learn more about olympic lifting, can any one recomend any good books or web sites on the subject. any advice is much appreciated.
thanks lads.

vinger · 05-04-2005, 04:29 PM

olympic lifting requires a coach mate. Its all in the technique,its not something u can learn from a book.

Where abouts are u? i can probly point u in the direction of an olympic gym if u want 2 check 1 out.

vinger · 05-04-2005, 05:24 PM

heres a pretty good site 4 info on olympic lifting. plenty of links.

http://www.fdzine.com/olympiclifter/index.html

There arnt that many good sites with it being a small sport, CLASS sport tho it is. Its my 1st true love

any info u need on it im sure i can help.

saj · 05-04-2005, 09:32 PM

i had a look at some of the world records on that website you posted vinger awesome or what,id love to be able to deadlift weights like that never mind lifting em above my head.
them guys are like bombs ready to explode!!!
thanks for the feedback vinger i'll have to see if theres a club near me.
im into wrestling [olympic freestyle] and that kind of strength would come in handy on the mat im sure.

vinger · 06-04-2005, 09:32 AM

the elite lifters lift some awsome weights. weights i can olny dream of. Your spot on in your analogy of them being like bombs ready to explode. Its an explosive movement you concentrate on achieving. I can see how it would benefit you in wrestling, deff worth giving ago mate. do u compete in wrestling?

Anonymous · 06-04-2005, 03:13 PM

no vinger i dont compete mate, but some of the sessions at the club can get very competative.

fred22 · 20-06-2005, 10:32 AM

Vinger, can you give me the addresses of any good gyms in Manchester? I am a beginner.
Thanks

vinger · 20-06-2005, 11:57 AM

sure no probs mate.

Not sure whereabouts you are but heres a couple of gyms i use.

West wythenshaw college, moor rd. wythenshaw. Coach is les green. A top top man and is your best bet for begining.

forum weightlifting club, not sure bout the address but could direct you. its in wythenshaw park. only 5 mins from wythenshaw college.

Moss side weightlifting, (lesuire centre) not been here for a while so not sure about coaching or facilities but last time i went they had a few lifters. Dodgy area so lock your car, if your car wheels come off take em with u aswell.

vinger · 20-06-2005, 11:58 AM

Olympic gym in ashton under lyne. this is where im currently training. excelent facilities and quality coaching.

there are a few schools aswell that offer training and coaching, obviously your gonna have to travel tho as there really arnt that many gyms at the moment offering olympic weightlifting.

hope thats sumsort of help mate, anymore questions just ask.

Vinger.

jack_of_all · 22-06-2005, 05:51 PM

well, if you just do power cleans instead of full cleans it doesnt require that much instruction but its not the same thing. i dont have anyone to coach me so i just do PC's, but as far as strength gains from oly lifting i have a cool story about that.

on a different forum i belong to i posted a thread about lifting people in powerlifts/oly lifts/etc, well a guy posted a very cool story. he got drunk and was fighting one of his friends (not like a serious fight, they werent really trying to hurt eachother) and he knocked his friend down, grabbed him by the upper arm and knee, then, in a motion very similar to a power snatch he threw him so hard into the ceiling (not the side that hit the floor, but the side the impacted the ceiling) that the side of his body that hit turned red. of course, the guy who did this could snatch like 280 lbs which is along way off for the new lifter (hell, i cant even power clean 200 lbs yet and ive been lifting 6 months, of course thats not really my focus either)

@ original poster, if you want to increase the power lifts, you need to do zercher squats and good mornings for sure, those are very popular and either one increases both your squat and dl, as far as bench, just generally working the triceps more is an accepted way to increase it.

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saj Under Construction Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: birmingham Posts: 47 Rep Power:	assistance exersises can someone tell me what assistance exersises i need to be doing to increase strength in the powerlifts. i lift weights 3 times a week, for legs i do squats and leg curls,for back its deadlifts [nothing else] and for chest i do flat bench followed by tricep extensions.my main goal at the moment is increasing strength im not interrested in any shaping/sculpting exersises.i would also like to learn more about olympic lifting, can any one recomend any good books or web sites on the subject. any advice is much appreciated. thanks lads.

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05-04-2005, 04:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
vinger Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: manchester Posts: 348 Rep Power:	olympic lifting requires a coach mate. Its all in the technique,its not something u can learn from a book. Where abouts are u? i can probly point u in the direction of an olympic gym if u want 2 check 1 out.

05-04-2005, 05:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
vinger Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: manchester Posts: 348 Rep Power:	heres a pretty good site 4 info on olympic lifting. plenty of links. http://www.fdzine.com/olympiclifter/index.html There arnt that many good sites with it being a small sport, CLASS sport tho it is. Its my 1st true love any info u need on it im sure i can help.

05-04-2005, 09:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
saj Under Construction Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: birmingham Posts: 47 Rep Power:	i had a look at some of the world records on that website you posted vinger awesome or what,id love to be able to deadlift weights like that never mind lifting em above my head. them guys are like bombs ready to explode!!! thanks for the feedback vinger i'll have to see if theres a club near me. im into wrestling [olympic freestyle] and that kind of strength would come in handy on the mat im sure.

06-04-2005, 09:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
vinger Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: manchester Posts: 348 Rep Power:	the elite lifters lift some awsome weights. weights i can olny dream of. Your spot on in your analogy of them being like bombs ready to explode. Its an explosive movement you concentrate on achieving. I can see how it would benefit you in wrestling, deff worth giving ago mate. do u compete in wrestling?

06-04-2005, 03:13 PM	#6 (permalink)
Anonymous Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Rep Power:	no vinger i dont compete mate, but some of the sessions at the club can get very competative.

20-06-2005, 10:32 AM	#7 (permalink)
fred22 Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6 Rep Power:	Vinger, can you give me the addresses of any good gyms in Manchester? I am a beginner. Thanks

20-06-2005, 11:57 AM	#8 (permalink)
vinger Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: manchester Posts: 348 Rep Power:	sure no probs mate. Not sure whereabouts you are but heres a couple of gyms i use. West wythenshaw college, moor rd. wythenshaw. Coach is les green. A top top man and is your best bet for begining. forum weightlifting club, not sure bout the address but could direct you. its in wythenshaw park. only 5 mins from wythenshaw college. Moss side weightlifting, (lesuire centre) not been here for a while so not sure about coaching or facilities but last time i went they had a few lifters. Dodgy area so lock your car, if your car wheels come off take em with u aswell.

20-06-2005, 11:58 AM	#9 (permalink)
vinger Making Progress Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: manchester Posts: 348 Rep Power:	Olympic gym in ashton under lyne. this is where im currently training. excelent facilities and quality coaching. there are a few schools aswell that offer training and coaching, obviously your gonna have to travel tho as there really arnt that many gyms at the moment offering olympic weightlifting. hope thats sumsort of help mate, anymore questions just ask. Vinger.

22-06-2005, 05:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
jack_of_all Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7 Rep Power:	well, if you just do power cleans instead of full cleans it doesnt require that much instruction but its not the same thing. i dont have anyone to coach me so i just do PC's, but as far as strength gains from oly lifting i have a cool story about that. on a different forum i belong to i posted a thread about lifting people in powerlifts/oly lifts/etc, well a guy posted a very cool story. he got drunk and was fighting one of his friends (not like a serious fight, they werent really trying to hurt eachother) and he knocked his friend down, grabbed him by the upper arm and knee, then, in a motion very similar to a power snatch he threw him so hard into the ceiling (not the side that hit the floor, but the side the impacted the ceiling) that the side of his body that hit turned red. of course, the guy who did this could snatch like 280 lbs which is along way off for the new lifter (hell, i cant even power clean 200 lbs yet and ive been lifting 6 months, of course thats not really my focus either) @ original poster, if you want to increase the power lifts, you need to do zercher squats and good mornings for sure, those are very popular and either one increases both your squat and dl, as far as bench, just generally working the triceps more is an accepted way to increase it.