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| Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 14 Rep Power: ![]() | hi, ok i started training seriously a bit less than 3 months ago.. the last month i have hardly worked out at all but the 2 months before that i was working out 3 nites a week... hear are some pics from when i started... ImageShack - Hosting :: dsc00256qc6.jpg ImageShack - Hosting :: dsc00257sk9.jpg ImageShack - Hosting :: dsc00264sg6.jpg and how i am now.. with out the use of any supplements.. ImageShack - Hosting :: dsc00344fn5.jpg ImageShack - Hosting :: dsc00341zn7.jpg ImageShack - Hosting :: dsc00341zn7.jpg ImageShack - Hosting :: dsc00343bh0.jpg all comments welcome!!!! Thanks Steve Northern Ireland |
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| Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 891 Rep Power: ![]() | Hi Steve, well what can i say? ive had a b4 and 3 mths after pic opened at the same time and compared both and fail to see any difference, if any thing i actually think you look bigger in the before pics. So some advise to you, get some suppliments down you! Your in desperate need of calories.... |
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| Illuminati | agreed - i dont see much difference in the pics,but you do have a very similar basis as me when i joined this place 2 years ago. you do need to start making some homemade shakes out of oats milk and bananas(with a protein powder if you can afford one-i couldnt). its also looks as if youre training(and i`m guessing cos i dont know your routine and frequency)too frequently which will make it very difficult for a lean individual to put mass on.try training 2x a week with masses and masses of rest. i`d be interested to see your routine too. you need to be concentrating on deads squats and bench press,with (IMEHO)no isolation exercises at all. you dont need supps to grow you need rest! ______________________ einsteins mind was the key to all things...to understand more than to know. www.englishmuscle.co.uk www.extremenutrition.co.uk |
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| Legend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: www.counselling-for-men.co.uk Posts: 651 Rep Power: ![]() | Hi mate - I just read back through the first thread you posted on here where there was a lot of discussion about your training and diet. Im guessing now, but I would say that the reason why you may not have packed on as much size as you would have liked is down to your diet. I know you said before, that being at school, it was going to be hard to eat the amount you need, when you need it. Now that the school holidays are arriving, will you be able to stick more rigidly to the diet plan that was originally suggested to you. I wouldnt worry too much about the last three months. When we first start out, we have to take the time to get to know how our body responds to the training and the diet, so you have probably learned a lot over the last 3 months. Now, with the holidays, you've got 6 weeks to go full steam ahead with your plan, and Im sure if you can stick to it, your pictures in 6 weeks time will be a lot different. I agree with Cal, I wouldnt bother too much with loads of supplements. Follow cal's recipe for the shake and try and stick to your orginal plan of using compound exercises in your training programme Good luck mate and keep us posted ______________________ Retrieve your balls at counselling-for-men.co.uk |
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| Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bulgaria. Posts: 2,763 Rep Power: ![]() | I'm with the rest of the boys - you need to get eating. Some cheap sources of protein are milk, tuna, mince, cheese, cheap carbs are oats, potatoes, bread, bananas. Get some whey protein if you can afford it - at £10 per kg it would be worth getting some if you have the money. |
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| Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 14 Rep Power: ![]() | Quote:
im training 3 times a week lifting weights (working out the 6 main muscels, 2 a nite) and doing cardo the other nites depending on how im feeling. as for the oats milk and banana shakes, im willing to give that a try if you could give me the measurements on how much to mix with what as for protein, i have a good sounce of protein in my diet with lots of tuna, chicken fillets, eggs and fish, but i am not going to start using supplements my parents wouldnt let me use them and i think that because i have only worked out once a week max for the last 6 weeks i have shrunk, as i have lost about 1/2 a stone since this which is im guessin was purely muscle??!?!? what do you mean by isolation exercises??? Thanks Again... | |
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| Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 14 Rep Power: ![]() | Quote:
i do eat alot of them sources of protein, so im guessin i might be missing out on something elce in my diet???? and i know im never going to get the appropiate amount of protein from my food intake alone without protein powders ect, but my parents dont want me to go down this route, and i dont want to get super big like all the guys on hear just yet!! Thanks.. | |
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| Illuminati | i didnt use protein powders for over 2 years bud isolation exercises only work one muscle group- eg a triceps extension- a better way of working tri`s would be to do close grip bench press or dips which are compound movement using many muscle groups at a time. sure someone can fill you in on the sciencey bit start at 50g of oats 1 nana and milk to suit-too little and its stodgy too much and it takes ages to drink- i usually have a pint of skimmed in mine and a can if tuna for afters. btw theres only one way to get too big and even that aint guarenteed ______________________ einsteins mind was the key to all things...to understand more than to know. www.englishmuscle.co.uk www.extremenutrition.co.uk Last edited by crazycal1; 11-07-2007 at 12:57 PM. |
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| Making Progress Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 350 Rep Power: ![]() | There is no reason not to use protein powders to supplement your diet. Your parents concern is misplaced, if you need large amouts of protein, there is nothing wrong with protein shakes, they wont make you ill, make your hair fall out or kill you. Creatine...fair enough, if they have concerns about that then thats fine....but whey protien is harmless. Tell them that, if they still disagree then do as your told, I dont want to get you in trouble with your folks!! Read through the diet section mate, you may get some good ideas there as to how you should be eating. When I first started traninig I was about 16, I had no idea about diet and as a result I got hardly any results from training. Good luck pal! ______________________ http://WWW.HulahoopsAreAQualityCompleteProteinSource.Com |
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| Illuminati | personally i think most peeps lack of results is down to training rather than diet(eating an excess of calories aside) ______________________ einsteins mind was the key to all things...to understand more than to know. www.englishmuscle.co.uk www.extremenutrition.co.uk |
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