a few pics (10/04-02/05)

garrilla

dont provoke me mate, i put things in the very nicest way i cud, and i'm gunna hold my tongue right now but believe me i may have been the one to say it but there are plenty thinking the same thing they'll just say it behind your back. this is a BODUBUUILDING forum, correct me if i'm wrong but i believe bodybuilding is about building muscle if you've got the look you want then you aint a bodybuilder but an athlete your problem is you think you know it all and you dont and because of this you are unwilling to listen to others or take any advice from those in a position to help.

you say its lean gains your after not bulk yet half of what you've gained in the last 4 months is fat, and again if your diet and training were spot on you'd have made better progress.

i tired to be supportive and offer you help but your arrogance has got in the way. there are plenty of lads on this sight i help with training and if you gave me a chance you'd find i'm a nice guy who just wants to help.

i've been training as long as you've been on the planet and you give me no credit for that at all.

EXPERIENCE counts.

exaktlywhat

gentlemen, please. garry is quite right in what he said, i dont take anyones word as gospel but ill listen to what anyone has to say and if i dont like it take it with a grain of salt. constructive criticism is a good thing and one can use it to build and develop and grow as a person. i always say that i know everything, i just cant remember it all at once, that is sarcasm, noone knows everything and no matter how much you know, how big you are how hard you train, theres always someone bigger better stronger or faster. knowledge is wealth so instead of taking offense at peoples comments be they good or bad try to look at what theyre saying, see if theres an ounce of truth in it and if so use it to better yourself. besides, garry remembers what it was like when the dinosaurs died so if knowledge is proportionate to age then this guy is a library! j/k about the age thing garry, trying to lighten the mood, no hard feelings? i can just imagine my neck in that pic instead of that protein shake!

Anonymous

i really doubt that, most 'decent' people respect that i've worked very hard for the physique i've got, if they thought i needed work i'm sure they'd say it! but i think most people would agree that i'm looking in awesome shape

i think you mean 'bodybuilding' forum

so you are telling me that when a pro bodybuilder stops building muscle and decides to cut up for a competition he is no longer a bodybuilder? you don't know what you are talking about, cutting up is a huge part of bodybuilding, bodybuilding is not just about mass, its about symmetary, proportions, seperation, definition, fitness... bodybuilding is a lifestyle, i believe anyone who lives the bodybuilding lifestyle (working out everyday, eating 7-8 meals etc) in an attempt to add muscle and lose fat is 'bodybuilding', whether its for personal reasons or competition

FYI i've taken plenty of advice over the years, i take advice if and when i need it, i don't claim to 'know it all', but my basic knowledge of things such as diet and training is just fine, and like you said i'll get better as i gain more 'experience'

what, like eat everything in sight? thats just gonna lead to greater fat gain, i know i could have kept a lower BF by keeping my cardio up and not porking out so much over xmas and easter, but i've learnt and i know that i won't add so much BF next time round

so because you have been training longer than me i'm expected to give you credit for that? i give credit where credit is due, you are a big guy and i give you credit for that but don't come in my thread telling me that my diet and training are flawed when you don't know what i eat or how i train, just accept that i'm not after any advice at this stage that is not what i'm asking for, if all you're gonna do is bitch at me then don't bother posting in this thread again

exaktlywhat

guys, calm down, its an opinion on garrys part. opinions are like assholes everybody has one. if you dont like what someone says just let it slide. really GF. what does garrys comment hurt other than your pride. i never hear anyone correct people when they post compliments other than nick, i think he was the only one i have heard so far that when he got compliments said "well thats nice but not what it should be" and asked to be torn up. i respect him for putting his balls out there like that. garry could call me a chubby pig ****er and i would laugh it off, might threaten to come across the pond and make him beat me up but then we would head down to the pub and grab a coulpe dozen beers...move on!

garrilla

i think you'll find i said i wasnt trying to take anything away from wot you have achieved, and i am one of the most decent and honest guys you could ever meet. and fyi i know what other guys think of you because they have told me.

AWW didums did i make a typeo lmao

you'll find bodybuilders actually make sure they have plenty of muscle before thay cut mate, and no mater how ripped symetrical proportional or defined you are without the size they are all redundant.

if your diet and training were all good then 6 yrs of training would have produced much better gains

THATS THE POINT you need to stop worrying about calories and bodyfat you cant gain muscle at any decent rate while worrying about that

i will post anywhere i fukin want boy and dont you presume to tell me what i may or may not do on this site, no one owns a thread you make a post and it is open for all to pass comments good or bad accept that or dont post at all

i've bitten my tongue so many times when you've made posts on subjects you clearly know nothing about, as have other mods, to save you from looking an arse but no more.

divie

I think GD looks good especially pecs but then again training for 6 years you would think so.Be proud though GD even sticking at BB for 6 years deserves credit as its the hardest thing ive attempted due to the conssistency and knowledge needed.But to be honest whos to argue with gary when hes the biggest on here so he obviously knows something.I think your like me GD, i dont like to gain body fat and i like to stay in shape but ive tried to bulk without gaining body fat but it slows progress down.Im just eating more now and yes im gaining bodyfat but weight and muscle is coming quicker now, as we can always cut in later down the line.The again if your goals are to look like a cover guy then well done coz you do.
It makes a change that im not involved in a arguement for once, well not yet.
peace

zx9rjas.

Why do people get so funny when someone suggests/constructively criticises a physique.

Whats the purpose of posting your pics, if everyone was to go "well done there, you got nothing to do" how is that gonna help. If you get funny about what someone has said then you've got the wrong attitude.

A while ago I posted some pics of myself on here and Gary said I needed to work on my triceps to create a better balanced arm and did I get all arsy about it, NO! I listened to someone with more experience than me and focused on them a bit more. Thats the reason I posted my pics, not for everyone to love me and go WOW! (I do that myself!!!)

You need to see the critisism that Garry has made as an HONEST opinion not a PUTDOWN,

I've been told my contest helper that I need to hit more cardio to lose more BF, did I say "F$CK OFF" and take it badly, no, I LISTEN to an HONEST opinion.

Make this clear, I like Garry and he is a person to be listened to, he is so experienced for this forum is unreal, he can aggrevate people by the things he says but get over it. He has an attitude I understand and like as its very similar to my own. BEST MOD ON THE SITE AS YOU WONT GET B.S. OR INFO HE DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT!!!

J

exaktlywhat

besides that hes a big guy and he gets all the chicks and owns his own "little red tank-top" factory. nah, just screwin around. i personally think theres a lot of testosterone here and we all just need to hug and read the jokes i put up in g.d. area and have a laugh. hey, whats the deal with calling fries chips?

Anonymous

yeah the cover guy look is the look i'm after, i'd like to check out modelling in the future.. recently got a job as a topless waiter, i get paid 60 to chat to women with my shirt off for 2 hours in the VIP section of a nightclub on a friday night, what a job!

thanks again for the comments, bro

Anonymous

so because you like him you feel the need to jump on the bandwagon and give me a lecture as well?

i'm sorry but i don't see how saying someones diet and training is shit is in anyway 'constructive', if he were to say he thinks i need more size then fair enough, or bigger traps, or less bodyfat... then that i can take into consideration and work harder on bringing up those bodyparts, i think you're missing the point here, i am open to criticism, but i'm not going to be disresepected like that by anyone on here, best mod on the forum or not