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Old 01-02-2010, 07:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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im 22 an 10.6 stone and have been thinking of doing a cycle for a while now, ive got near on a years worth of training behind me an want sumthing to beef me up for summer, ive planned a cycle witch consists of a 300-400ml jab of tri test 400 for 8-10 weeks depending on how i get on with it, followed by a 2 week break then a two week pct consisting of nolvadex an chlomid (wich i already have)

what do u guys think?

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Hello

im 22 an 10.6 stone and have been thinking of doing a cycle for a while now, ive got near on a years worth of training behind me an want sumthing to beef me up for summer, ive planned a cycle witch consists of a 300-400ml jab of tri test 400 for 8-10 weeks depending on how i get on with it, followed by a 2 week break then a two week pct consisting of nolvadex an chlomid (wich i already have)

what do u guys think?

peace out..........
10.6st, how tall are you?

Give us an idea of what you eat on a daily basis?

How much have you gained in the year you have been training?

After a 8-10 week cycle your proposed time off would be near useless.
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Old 01-02-2010, 09:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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What do u mean by proposed time off being a waste of time?? What would you suggest?? An I eat well not 6 meals a day but on a average day 1 an a half brests of chicken, 2-3 eggs 3 protien shakes an a normal dinner an random snacks fruit nuts ect I plan to increase my diet whilst cycleing.
Also I'm 5""11 an have gained around 9pounds
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What do u mean by proposed time off being a waste of time?? What would you suggest?? An I eat well not 6 meals a day but on a average day 1 an a half brests of chicken, 2-3 eggs 3 protien shakes an a normal dinner an random snacks fruit nuts ect I plan to increase my diet whilst cycleing.
Also I'm 5""11 an have gained around 9pounds
u need to sort ya diet yor protiens way off and my bets all the rest is to why not get ya diet rite train sum and then try some gear. 1 and a half chicken isnt even enuff for one meal.
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chuck 2 ltrs of full fat milk a day, everyday and you will gain a nice chunk of weight. Get your diet sorted before even thinking of trying steriods mate. Your diet you listed sucks. With every shake add 1 tbs of olive oil and a couple of spoon fulls of oats and a tbs of peanut butter. the rest of the food you listed is a breakfast mate nothing more. Try 5000 kcals a day n training your balls off first because if you cant manage that then you have no place with gear
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Elad , If my advice is of any use to you go as far as you can for as long as you can with your food, proteins, creatines etc before you move to the next level . No one really wants to do this every one wants to get up in to the fast lane as early as possible because we all love witha passion what we do and wabt to look bigger and stronger sooner.....long term you will benifit by holding off for as long as you can set the mental challange in your head to go as far as you can for another year , of course the final decission is yours mate.
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What do u mean by proposed time off being a waste of time?? What would you suggest?? An I eat well not 6 meals a day but on a average day 1 an a half brests of chicken, 2-3 eggs 3 protien shakes an a normal dinner an random snacks fruit nuts ect I plan to increase my diet whilst cycleing.
Also I'm 5""11 an have gained around 9pounds
Unless your 'normal' dinner is a 72oz rump there is no way you are getting enough protein to build big muscle - this has been proven by the fact you have only gained 9lbs in a year.

If you are serious about building muscle then eat well, train hard, sleep well and if when you hit 13st you are still not happy then look at other supplements first, then if you feel the need you can move on to the gear.

Start training yourself to eat 5-6 meals a day and include 'decent' sized portions of protein, eg, 6 egg omlette, 2 chicken breasts wrapped in bacon with wholemeal rice, etc etc.

Think of this....a young lad of 18 who passes his driving test and wants to get into motor racing doesn't head straight into formula 1, he works his way up through the ranks first. (shix analogy i know)
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hmmm telling someone they need to forcing down 5000 cals a day isnt helpful...
delay doing youre cycle mate and take the rest of the sensible advice given...

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hmmm telling someone they need to forcing down 5000 cals a day isnt helpful...
delay doing youre cycle mate and take the rest of the sensible advice given...

My advice wasnt simply eat 5000kcals, maybe I didnt make it clear it was, as people have mentioned since to focus on eating, because the fella isnt eating hardly anything at all. Just because I placed a number of kcals, which was an example doesnt make it a useless or unhelpful comment at all infact its more useful than simply saying delay your first cycle, which doesnt give the lad any feedback at all. With that he may think hes on the right lines already, so in 1,5 or 15 years he could be stuck in exactly the same place, and all he can show for it is wasted time. He needs to eat a hell of alot more and pile more plates on the bar with even a half arsed program that sees him hit all the major body parts without stupid amounts of volume
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again m8 just get ya diet sorted i dont suggest going mad with ya food intake aim for 250-300g protien 400-600g carbs 70-120g fat per day altinating get your carbs and fats from clean sources, u wanna be about 15-20 per cent body fat for max muscle i wouldent go any higher for your stats at the mo, hit one body part a day at the gym and hit it well, id leave the gear at the mo give ya self 6 months with suming like this and if u still dont think your hitting the mark then consider taking suming if your traning hard enuff and giving ya body what it needs to repair then u will gain quality muscle, gear doesnt make u over night and if ya diets shit and ya traning isnt up to par then what ever u gain will just fall off when u come off anyways, hit it hard and aim high every rep and every set.
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