the psycho bulk sustanon,deca and mdrol stack?

dizdabiz

Im going to be doing a cycle soon as i have 15 organon sustanon 250 and 12 organon deca's now ill also be using cels mdrol...

my history is im old enough to have teenage kids,ive been pumping on and off for over 15 years,ive done half a cycle od dbol,sustanon and deca before but halfway through i had a death in the family and slipped down a slippery slope of drugs and alcohol,obviously there was no pct!,so this would be my first real cycle and i have'nt been to the gym in a long time so theres no garantee that ill be starting the cycle straight away
also
anabolic innovations cycle support for blood pressure,prostate,immune system,liver,heart health,cholestrol.

mega fish oil caps-5n a day
mega multi vitamin-2 a day
liv 52-for liver dosage according to pack
hydrolyzed collagen,cissus,glucosamine for joints
as well as kelp for thyroid,potassium and taurine for cramps,enzyme formula and artichoke for digestion,zinc for testosterone support
and a valerian root formula and maybe zma for sleep

also no explode pre workout,cell mass after workout and nitrix 3 times a day
protein coming from,eggs,chicken,beef,100%beef burgers,fish,cottage cheese,peanut butter,yogurt and pulses is going to be 3/4/500 aday
complex carbs are going to be sweet and normal potato,yam,plaintain,bread,white/brown past/rice/cous cous,porridge oats,cereal etc...simple carbs straight after a workout,uncapped as the skys the limit caloriewise for me
as well as veg,salad etc...

weights sessions are going to hard,dirty and heavy,maybe a 3 day on 1-2 days off(still deciding due to work schedule) ie-mon-chest and bi,tri's and forarms, tue-legs&back- wed-shoulders,traps,stomach and obliques, i will be hitting every body part with 3X10 with a variety of exercises roughly 5 different ones which has worked great for me in the past.


now the cycle im thinking of is...
week 1-10 mg mdrol-1 sus-1dec
week 2-20mg mdrol-1 sus 1 dec
week 3-20mg mdrol- 2sus 2dec
week 4-20mg mdrol-2sus 2 dec
week 5-2 sus 2 dec
week 6-2 sus 2 dec
week 7- 2 sus 1 dec
week 8-2 sus 1 dec
week 9- 1 sus
week 10-
week 11-
week 12-
week 13-50 mg clomid-nolva 40
week 14 50mg clomid-nolva-20
week 15 50mg clomid-nolva-20
week16 50mg clomid-nolva-10

im also thinking about using hcg,maybe 500 e3d on cycle?

now i dont know how im going to react gyno wise but i reckon i might by some letro,so when i get rushed by all that testosterone,if there is any problems i can stop it dead!

now this is all subject to change as im still researching and learning,so what do you think and what would you do with the same products as ive got?

thanks in advance yeah!

Extreme

I don't know what Cels Mdrol is, I've never heard of Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support, I do think your trying to cover every base which is good but on a course this size your arming yourself with a cruise missile to shoot a rat.

I'd use 2 shots of sust and deca a week for the first 6 weeks the 2 sust in week 7 and the last one in week 8.

Don't go buying letro, your around 40 year old, the amount of test you'll be taking will not going to get "rushed by all that testosterone", your own levels will have dropped a lot in the last 15 years and the course your about to embark on is very conservative.

Your blowing a load of cash on BSN products that are nothing more than cell volumisers which don't actually build muscle, don't believe the hype bro. Ronnie had 4 or 5 Olympias under his belt before they sponsored him, he actually got worse after signing for BSN.

Use your clomid in week 9 and 10 and your HCG e5d along with your clomid.

TheCrazyCal

ive actually got some bsn no explode which someone gave me.
i do take it but only to get rid of it lol.
and i have tried it alone-which i dont rate.
i do however always use kre-evolution or liquid fury both products from the man above me....
both kick arse!

einsteins mind was the key to all things...to understand more than to know.

www.extremenutrition.co.uk

dizdabiz

Cheers extreme&crazycal1,yeah mdrol's a clone of superdrol-methylated oral methasteron

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on a course this size your arming yourself with a cruise missile to shoot a rat.
hahaha,i like your subtle definition of overkill! yeah i think im going to go with what you said unless i can get more juice in which case its been recommended for me to do a 10-12 cycle?because i dont want to saturate virgin receptors for minimal gains which may work against me when i do another cycle! You said dont get letro,which is ok with me as cash is thin on the ground with the recession happening and all that! So your saying that gyno and other issues are less likely on this light stack? Oh yeah im 35,but its still not that far from 40,lol! And i know it sounds like im advertising bsn products,products but ive already got half tubs of each from a little while ago!

anyways lads cheers and thanks for the advice!

Extreme

Personally I think 12 weeks is too long for a sust/deca course, 8 weeks is long enough, the last 4 weeks should be fast acting products like prop or tren or possibly orals to finish off. That way when you come off you actually are off, with sust and deca courses you aren't clean till weeks after you stop and in many cases the guys are ready to go back on again by the time their systems are actually empty.

dizdabiz

yeah extreme i may be looking into something like this...


week1-mdrol-20mg-sus 500mg-deca 400mg
week2-mdrol-20mg-sus 500mg-deca 400mg
week3-mdrol-20mg-sus 500mg-deca 400mg
week4-mdrol-30mg-sus 500mg-deca 400mg
week5-mdrol-30mg-sus 500mg-deca 400mg
week6-sus 500mg deca 400mg
week7-sus 500mg-mdrol 30mg
week8-sus 250 mg-mdrol 30mg
week9-mdrol 20 mg
week10-mdrol 20mg
week11-clomid 100mg-nolva 40mg
week12-clomid 50mg-nolva 20mg
week13-clomid 50 mg-nolva 20mg
week14-nolva 20mg
pct will also include some transreversitol products,tongat ali/longjack,some trib maybe,just for maxiumum recovery

also hcg will probably be used at 500iu e3d

I know that the mdrol dosage is high,but im looking for maximum muscle but everything is all subject to review and change.

what do you think?

GeezuZ

No need to pyramide down the susta, I would do 750 week 7. Leave pct until around 3 week after last injection, dunno what the drol does, is it a Pro-hormoe?