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ok heres the deal, ive posted here before its just been a pretty long while

been training for 5ish years now eat great train hard.

im 9 weeks in on a cycle of test and deca 400mg a week of test and 300mg a week of deca pretty light

i started at about 193lbs im currently around 213lbs so roughly 20lbs gained.

its my first time cycling these 2 types of gear. ive been starting my 40mg a day of nolvadex for a week now . i only plan on doing about an 11 week cycle. ( i leave for vacation may 4-11 theres a gym there and ill be able to eat loads like i am now)

other than PCT and keeping my calorie intake up whats the best way to hold on to some or most of my gains? i was thinking when i got back from my trip id try creatine and triabolis (spelling?)

any thoughts on how well thse gains are for that cycle? and/or advice on holding on to them?

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Old 25-04-2008, 11:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Correct PCT will be vital to minimise post cycle muscle losses especially when Deca is concerned,which as you should know is extremely HPTA suppressive.Run that Nolva to its end.Creatine and TT are irrelevant.Carbs,calories and protein might help prevent your body eating itself but not all that 20lbs will be muscle tissue so once the exess water,fat and blood volume have receded after the cycle dont expect to keep it all.Thats just the nature of things im affraid.

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good point gazz...if PCT is in check, I'd say he'd be looking at keeping somewhere in the neighborhood of 5 or 6 pounds of muscle

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i plan on still eating like a horse once im off i average 7 meals a day on good days sometimes only 6 and theres been quite a few time where im at 8 or so.

i sure didnt expect to keep all my gains but only 5 or 6 lbs is depressing ah well just gotta train harder i guess
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No HCG in your cycle???
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whats HCG?
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Something I suggest you look up if you are not already using it. It's crucial in getting your balls back working quicker, therefore keeping gains better. In simple terms.
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ah well just gotta train harder i guess
actually bud i`d say you should be training abit less off cycle/resting more off cycle.
be careful of overeating too.
its easy to put on weight just to keep the scales happy.

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yea cal before my cycle i was training less, basically more rest days between training. but i still gotta keep training to failure. i tend to do a couple warmup sets at about 75-80% then my last 2 all out to failure. 4 th set ill do a drop set and then some negatives to finish her off good.

i asked today about the HCG and i was told its basically the same as the nolvadex. would the nolvadex not suffice?
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Its aint even close to nolva, From what it sounds i wouldnt listen to any advice this guy told you.
Nolva to the point is an anti-estrogen stops bi*ch t*ts.
Hcg To be used during a cycle or midway thru to help aid of shrinking of the balls and too help them recover quicker when you fin cycle.
Plenty research recommended.
Id also uses tribulus too. Proviron is meant to be pretty good too.
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