new cycle

raj · 08-04-2008, 06:54 PM

was thinking of going on 500mg test e for 10wk and 400mg deca for 8wk, 0.5 adx eod, this is my 3rd cycle want water retention to be kept to a minimum. or would something like sus and winny be better.

any views cheers

wigz · 08-04-2008, 09:56 PM

sus or enth it doesn't make much difference, arimidex well help but a clean diet is the key regarding bloat.

sitries · 08-04-2008, 10:05 PM

what were your previous cycles and what were your gains?? did you keep the gains you made?? cant comment on the sus, never used it. im sure arimadex will help with the bloat but i agree about the clean diet part.

wigz · 08-04-2008, 10:25 PM

if you have the winny i would use it the last 4 weeks untill PCT

wogihao · 08-04-2008, 10:33 PM

You want the bloat thats what streches the muscle facila and makes extra growth possible, I cant beleve I didnt see the relivence of this in the process untill recently. But many people are robbing themselves of great gains by over regulateing water retention/bloat.

wigz · 08-04-2008, 10:39 PM

Personally i have to control the bloat, people already ask in work if i take gear so i have to be carefull but if that wasn't the case i wouldnt bother.

**Tall** · 08-04-2008, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wogihao

You want the bloat thats what streches the muscle facila and makes extra growth possible, I cant beleve I didnt see the relivence of this in the process untill recently. But many people are robbing themselves of great gains by over regulateing water retention/bloat.

True. But most still beleive all gains made on cycle are muscle growth, rather than an increase in blood plasma, supercompensation of glycogen storage and fluid rentention...

Hence the classic... "I did 12 weeks of Test E @ 500mg, gained 14lbs but only kept 6lbs after PCT... What was wrong with my: Diet | Training | PCT | Gear...." etc

wogihao · 08-04-2008, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wigz

Personally i have to control the bloat, people already ask in work if i take gear so i have to be carefull but if that wasn't the case i wouldnt bother.

There used to say that all the time at work, but they also knew I was a fan of the junk food, cakes ect so when I blew up they figured I was just on a jaffacake binge.

wogihao · 08-04-2008, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tall

True. But most still beleive all gains made on cycle are muscle growth, rather than an increase in blood plasma, supercompensation of glycogen storage and fluid rentention...

Hence the classic... "I did 12 weeks of Test E @ 500mg, gained 14lbs but only kept 6lbs after PCT... What was wrong with my: Diet | Training | PCT | Gear...." etc

Whats makeing me think now is, is it not better to promote as much bloat as possible even if its at the expense of rom during the training during a cycle just to streach the facilia as much as possible and then build apon the gains after the cycle....

hmmmmmmm..... if thats the case then there are plenty of other pharma products that will produce much better bloat than steriods....

**Tall** · 08-04-2008, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wogihao

Whats makeing me think now is, is it not better to promote as much bloat as possible even if its at the expense of rom during the training during a cycle just to streach the facilia as much as possible and then build apon the gains after the cycle....

hmmmmmmm..... if thats the case then there are plenty of other pharma products that will produce much better bloat than steriods....

Lol. You could always just stretch to stretch your fascia...?

08-04-2008, 06:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
raj Under Construction Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 19 Rep Power:	new cycle was thinking of going on 500mg test e for 10wk and 400mg deca for 8wk, 0.5 adx eod, this is my 3rd cycle want water retention to be kept to a minimum. or would something like sus and winny be better. any views cheers

08-04-2008, 09:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
wigz Making Progress Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Manchester Posts: 426 Rep Power:	Re: new cycle sus or enth it doesn't make much difference, arimidex well help but a clean diet is the key regarding bloat.

08-04-2008, 10:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
sitries Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 633 Rep Power:	Re: new cycle what were your previous cycles and what were your gains?? did you keep the gains you made?? cant comment on the sus, never used it. im sure arimadex will help with the bloat but i agree about the clean diet part.

08-04-2008, 10:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
wigz Making Progress Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Manchester Posts: 426 Rep Power:	Re: new cycle if you have the winny i would use it the last 4 weeks untill PCT

08-04-2008, 10:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
wogihao Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 191 Rep Power:	Re: new cycle You want the bloat thats what streches the muscle facila and makes extra growth possible, I cant beleve I didnt see the relivence of this in the process untill recently. But many people are robbing themselves of great gains by over regulateing water retention/bloat.

08-04-2008, 10:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
wigz Making Progress Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Manchester Posts: 426 Rep Power:	Re: new cycle Personally i have to control the bloat, people already ask in work if i take gear so i have to be carefull but if that wasn't the case i wouldnt bother.

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