Newbie needing advice

firerescuemedic

Ok i posted a comment in a different thread that chould have been placed here (if anyones how i can delet the other let me know and i will) Well Im new to this site and new to using gear. To thos of yall that have excperience with this let me know what you think of this stack for a first time user (i dont want to waste time money or my health ya know?). 250mg Test E every 5 days along with 10mg dianabol every day as well as 20mg Nolvadex everyday for an 8week cycle? I also have 3 200mg/ml 1ml vials of Deca that i can add in someplace if advised??? Thanks for the advice!!!

FAT BOY

hello and welcome to muscle chat.

you should have done your research for you started m8 .

500mg of test a week is fine you dont need to take it every 5 days just one shot a week is all good.
up the dianabol to 25mg for the first 4 weeks then come off it
you dont need to run nolva all the way through just keep it on hand incase of signs of gyno and for pct

if this is your first cycle then save the deca you realy dont need it.

take milk thistle and eat a good clean diet

k m8 good luck

wigz

Not enough deca there for you to add to your cycle but even if there was you would be better leaving it for next your next time, do you have your pct planned and how's you diet?

wogihao

No need for nolva unless you have previous problems with bitch tits.

Rember if you use a medication like nolva during the cycle its removing a component that required for growth (estrogen). thus makeing your cycle less efective.

deca I would keep that for the next cycle and maby get some more as well so you can do a proper run of it.

The dbol well heres the thing 10mg will be like useing it like a suplement, thats fine if you want to experement and see what your reaction to the medication is but for the efects you want i would say you need to use more.

The test dose is quite high, I wouldnt use 500mg for a first cycle because you dont know what the medicine will do to you. Consider if you have a bad reaction to test the potential side effects/issues are much much easyer to control and contain with a dose of 250mg a week compaired to say 500mg.

If out of your teens, maby mid 20s then 250mg a week will produce gains if your diet/rest pattern is good and your training is efective. Its also a good way to mesure your genetic responce to performance enhancers (some react better to medication than others - you need to know how receptive you are in planning your future cycles.)

Now this is how i would do it.

1st cycle

250mg of test each week for 12 weeks + a 4 week PCT

now take a rest but not to much you want to maintain so your looking in most cases at about 4-6 weeks off (in theory it should be time on = time off but that never happens in real life as people get very frustrated that when the excess androgen/anabolic chemicals leave the body they are left with very few real term gains so you need to be cycleing fairly regulary to maintain your new mass).

next cycle review, did you react well? how much did you gain? did you have any problems with things like water retention/acne/hair loss/gyno?

ok once you went through that, if everything is fine i would say..

250mg of test each week 12 weeks
30mg of dbol for the first 8 weeks
+ pct 4 weeks

Now your know how you cope with dbol and test combined rember many PEDs have a synegenic efect (they are more than the sum of their parts).
So its important to introduce new medication in a controled and staged manner so you can monitor the efect on your body. Its much easyer to find out whats going wrong with your cycle rather than takeing everything at once.

ok now its getting to the end of year 1 so we have one more cycle left this year usualy people save there heavy androgenic cycles to the winter as its easyer to hide stuff like water retention/gyno under a jumper/coat than say a t-shirt.

assuming that you responded well and had no problems we now introduce a new medication to boost the efectivness of the androgens in your system. Rember you want to keep these chemicals free in your body as much as possible for them to be efective. Therefore you need to manage your bodys ability to bind to the androgens. This is acheved with medication such as Proviron, winstrol, anavar.

We will also probably as its the 3rd cycle and you would have gained a significant amount of mass (probably about 10-20kg) need to up your test dose to give a better responce and also test your ability to cope with higher doses of test. (this is where the real fun begins).

so the cycle would look somthing like this,

500mg of test e per week
30mg of dbol per day
50mg of proviron per day

Now the realy full on guys would probably go for a diffrent oral for increased growth (Anadrol) this is the daddy of orals - nothing comes close to its ability to gain mass however this drug is hard to manage and needs to be monitored closely, that said with the proviron it should ease many of the potential side efects accociated with this drug.

The reasion I would use proviron instead of say winstrol is because its a much milder drug on your system from a side efect point of view to say winstrol. Considering that we would be efectivly doing a dbol/winstrol stack with test thats a harsh cycle and sides would be more pronounced.

after that you would start exprementing with the various orals to find one that you responded to the best, some like anadrol others love dianabol, tbol, winstrol, methly-tren, halo ect..

Also consider useing deca at 1/2 the amount that your useing the test in your cycles after the first year, this is important as large amounds of deca for most people produce some very problematic issues with things like gyno.

I would advise against the use of other substances untill you cant get a good responce from the basics without useing high doses (now I would say thats over 1g of anything).

Tren e would be my advice at that point, dont use to much of it, this substance is very potent (x5 the strenght of test so 200mg a week of tren is is like takeing 1g of test). Tren will change your look completely however consider that the side efects even at 200mg a week are quite pronounced (agression and depression are common). Rember this was the drug of choice for the SS.

Lol i'll expect my $500 through the post.

firerescuemedic

Holy Crap guys thanks for all the advice, to reply to each of yall, i did do research befor i bought my stuff but obviously NOT NEAR ENOUGH lol, I was asked abt my pct well i was planning on using Clomid (spell check) and 6-Oxo for abt 4 weeks cuz that was recomended??? As i said obviously i didnt do a good enough job on the research so is that an ok plan? As for my age well im 31 so not sure how that well effect things... ill adjust the Test remove the nova and keep on hand... and save the deca for next time (along with more of it....) I can adjust the dbol to a higher dose but since im new i wasnt sure how each would effect so i wasnt sure on a good dose just went with what was recomended on a couple sites i found... As for the diet i THINK im doing ok im at abt 3750 cals with 45p/35c/20f break down on %'s (lol im to the point i just eat the tuna from the can and dont taste it any more) well thanks again for all the advice!