7 weeks in. Gyno!!! oh dear

sitries

what other AIs are there??? iv got nolva and clomid but thats it. i dont fancy running letro - bit harsh. i could maybe get arimadex??

Young Gun

Nolva and clomid are serms not AI's. Adex, aromasin and letro are the most common. Use letro IMO.

razg

Do you prefer temporary lipid inversion and a bit of possible joint pain, or having gyno? Go with YG, Letro is the best in this situation.

Young Gun

I'd literally follow Raz's advice three posts ago using letro. I wouldn't stop the gear thinking about it due to the hormonal rebound effects (I should know better as I had gyno in PCT so sorry for the lazy advice). You will be fine in the end just try to chill out.

saint

Testosterone is testosterone yes, but of course there are numerous factors to consider. Dosage, frequency etc

Other factors also contribute surely, for example, weight, height maybe even how muscular a person is before starting a cycle.

Evidence suggests that if one testosterone produces too much estrogen then it may be wise to try a different blend. A bit like the womens contraceptive pill - sometimes a doctor has too change the variety if a woman experiences unwelcome side effects.

Why does this happen? Maybe no one knows but some people suggest it is the ester others the material the testosterone is suspended in or of course it could be both. Consider for example testosterone that is just suspended in water. It can produce a localised effect. So of course the area where the shot is taken and the subsequent distribution could be down to the suspension. So shooting in the delts could be worse for this side effect than the glutes.

At the end of the day it is all trial and error and the beauty of this forum and the internet is that people can find information that was maybe the preserve of a smaller group of people in the past.

I understand the philosophy of this type of cycle but the risks, particularly what is being discussed here, is not something I personally would be prepared to try.

At the end of the day advice has been given that suggests it will clear up.

FYI it is reported that some people, where there is too much aromatisation, report an irregular heartbeat.

Also, women with breast lumps have also been successfully treated with androgens.

Good luck anyway, hope it clears

Regards St

saint

Testosterone is testosterone yes, but of course there are numerous factors to consider. Dosage, frequency etc

Other factors also contribute surely, for example, weight, height maybe even how muscular a person is before starting a cycle.

Evidence suggests that if one testosterone produces too much estrogen then it may be wise to try a different blend. A bit like the womens contraceptive pill - sometimes a doctor has too change the variety if a woman experiences unwelcome side effects.

Why does this happen? Maybe no one knows but some people suggest it is the ester others the material the testosterone is suspended in or of course it could be both. Consider for example testosterone that is just suspended in water. It can produce a localised effect. So of course the area where the shot is taken and the subsequent distribution could be down to the suspension. So shooting in the delts could be worse for this side effect than the glutes.

At the end of the day it is all trial and error and the beauty of this forum and the internet is that people can find information that was maybe the preserve of a smaller group of people in the past.

I understand the philosophy of this type of cycle but the risks, particularly what is being discussed here, is not something I personally would be prepared to try.

At the end of the day advice has been given that suggests it will clear up.

FYI it is reported that some people, where there is too much aromatisation, report an irregular heartbeat.

Also, women with breast lumps have also been successfully treated with androgens.

Good luck anyway, hope it clears

Regards St

saint

Sorry computer oops sorry for the double post

razg

Evidence suggests?

What evidence?

And yes, women with breast cancer have been treated with non-aromatizing androgens (i.e. DHT).

Bodyworks

"Why does this happen? Maybe no one knows but some people suggest it is the ester others the material the testosterone is suspended in or of course it could be both. Consider for example testosterone that is just suspended in water. It can produce a localised effect. So of course the area where the shot is taken and the subsequent distribution could be down to the suspension. So shooting in the delts could be worse for this side effect than the glutes"

what does this mean ?

sitries

i think he means if you shoot your delt then its closer to the breast and therefore increased chance of gyno.

my nipple is no longer sore or anything but i can still feel a hardish area behind it. it fells different to the other side. i think il enquire about getting some letro though to be on the safe side.