help

dec man

hey guys been training for 2 years now was a big fatty before lost some maga weight arround 5 stone in all now thinking of doing my first course was thinking of 1 ml sus 1 ml deca per week i still carry some body fat would i be better to try and loose the fat before going on

Nath

Lot of other people will be able to advise u about the cycle, not my bag - sorry.

Post some more about urself tho, people will need to know more before they can advise, training, diet, age, weight, goals etc. You surely could achieve more naturally before u turn to the dark side, 2 years doesn't seem long enough to me personally.

Ironclad

Ok first off, from what i know sustanon is a short life ester which needs to be taken 2xweek, some say every 3 days. (i have sust250 ready to go, and this is the advice i've been given) I believe deca is good for long cycles as the effects are gradual (i'd like to try this sometime).
I'm now around 16%bf and i'm going cardio and diet mad as i been adviced to try to get down to below 12% minimum, apparently higher bf% tends to increase to likelyhood of gyno problems. Which can happen even without AAS (beer etc lol). There is another thought tho, if you increase muscle heavily your body needs to use (burn?) your excess fat to support the extra weight of muscle. Personally i'm not taking a cchance, diet and cardio for me for a while longer. I'm going to earn this cycle and make my 1st go as best a poss.
Don't know if this has been much help, but good luck man. Others'll chip in to help you.
Ps what is your bf%?

dec man

cheers for the reply bro can someone tell me how to spot gyno them my bf is probs 19% at a guess from last accurate reading maybe trying to go on gear to fast can someone help dont want to make wrong move as i have been told there is no other gain like your first time on

Bodyworks

dude, you really need to keep reading up on this before you you go the drug route.

FAT BOY

yeah agreed
there is loads of basic info on this site just take the time to research . dont forget your PCT

on a side note ironclad ive seen guys ripped to the bone get gyno you need to be aware that anybody who uses AS could get it and keep nolva handy when running a cycle

Ironclad

Believe me i am reserching practically everyday, if i wasn't i'd have pinned by now. But i'm no fool. I DO have all i need to complete a simple cycle but after good advice i am putting it on hold, as i have already stated.
The information i shared with the OP seems to me simple advice, get yourself healthy before thinking about a cycle. I don't have full knowledge of ALL steroids, but what little i do know i am happy to share and have criticis (= learning). So i have to ask you this BW; why have you made this unhelpful remark about my post? In one stroke you have circled my post and added a blunt remark which makes everything i've said seem rubbish. You have neither helped me understand where i've made a mistake (if indeed i have), nor have you helped the OP. Who prob now thinks my advice is useless.
First off, explain your comment; then why don't YOU give dec-man some of your wisdom.

Ironclad

Yes, yes i totally agree with you. All i did say was, "higher bf% = increased likelyhood of gyno". I didn't get to PCT. Thankyou for the heads-up fatboy, i am notrunning nolva during my future cycle (although i have enuff to sink a ship). I have 120ml of letrozole.

FAT BOY

To be honest for a first cycle you would prob be better just using sustanon
or test enthanate on its own at 500mg a week for ten weeks .
plus PCT simple and cost effective

Pikey

Sustanon250 is a mix of short, medium and slow release esters of testosterone, it isn't consider fast acting – the idea is that the different esters hit at different rates smoothing out the half life. Prop is the fast acting ester.

Gyno is,n't fat around the nipples and has nothing to do with body fat levels although you see plenty of blokes walking round with man boobs who are fat, they’re nothing to do with Gyno, thry’re to do with being fat. . Gyno is the feminization of the area around the nipples caused by a hormone imbalance, too much estrogen, which is caused by the body trying to balance its hormone levels due to the elevated levels of testosterone (obvious effect of taking testosterone) the body produces estrogen, mild cases would be sore nipples, clinical cases would be breast tissue. Take a look at several Pros ripped to the bone yet in an abs and thigh shot you’ll see a pronounced lump around the nipple this is gyno.

Bodyworks is right buy a couple of good books and read them thoroughly – “The works” is a good place to start.