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if i was to use prop to kickstart my cycle - how would i use it?? something like this -

wk1 - 300mg prop, 250mg enanthate
wk 2 - 300mg prop, 250mg enanthate
wk 3 - 300mg prop, 250mg enanthate
wk 4 - 500mg enanthate
wk 5 - 500mg enanthate
wk 5 - 500mg enanthate
wk 6 - 500 mg enanthate
wk 7 - 500mg enanthate
wk 8 - 500mg prop
wk 9 - 500mg prop
wk 10 - 500mg prop

after this cycle at what stage would i start pct? after say 5 days??
il be using hcg throughout the cycle at certain stages and then using nolva and clomid for pct.

Is this cycle ok or does it need adjustment?? cheers
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why do you feel the need for test propionate along side test enanthate early in the course ? test enanthate is a depot test, but that doesn't mean it won't begin working early in the course.
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Shane the need for the prop as well as the enthante is so you start feel the gear working in the first week which you won't with the Enthanate due to the ester attached you would normally start to feel enthanate working at around the 10 day mark unless you front load it massivly....

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personally id combine with soemthing else (i.e. winstrol) for the first 4 weeks rather than lowering the enan dose and replacing with prop!

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i've never felt the need to start my course with fast acting gear or frontload. patience is a virtue. remember the old days when people used to taper on their courses. guess this is not the done thing nowadays.
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tapering is not done nowadays mainly because it gives no advantage when using normal doses and duration however when using longer cycles tapering is a good idea...

I always front load with D/bol when on a test cycle, we are all different so need to find out what is best for us as individuals.

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the idea of using the prop was mainly to shorten the length of the coarse and make it easier to come off. so instead of a 12 week coarse i could do a ten weeker....or maybe even shorter. last time i just did enanthate. it took about a week to kick in which isnt to bad at all, but i dont want to run a long cycle this time. and i dont like strong orals such as dbol and cant get hold of any tbol or anavar at the mo. si
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