Advice for a First Time User

Jimmy Bizzle

Anavar, Turinabol, or just more effort?

Hi, I'm new to all this internet lark, so go easy with the lingo if you can.

I'm 6ft 3" bout 13 stone & i want to see my bottom stomach muscles whilst bulking my upper body.

I've been going gym on/off for bout 4 years, which I've been fairly consistent with for bout a year and half now. For the last 8 months I've been doing more repetition training for definition but still doing the pyramid training on the core items at the start. Where not stated below will be 4 sets of 12 reps:

Monday -
Flat Bench (12, 8, 6, 10) (6 reps is about 90kg)
Decline / Incline (alternate weeks)
Flies
Stomach - Gut Buster Slings & Cable Pull Downs (High Reps)

Tuesday - 1hr Cross trainer, burn fat

Wednesday -
Wide grip pull ups
Sit down Rows (12, 8, 6, 10) (6 reps is about 80kg)
Romanian dead lifts
(Stand with 20kg weight and bend form side to side alternate) not sure of name but hight reps
Stomach - Gut Buster Slings (High Reps)

Thursday -
Squats on Smith (12, 8, 6, 10) (6 reps is about 120kg)
Leg Curls
Leg Extensions
Calf's

Friday -
Shoulder Press (12, 8, 6, 10) (6 reps is about 34kg)
Front raises / Side raises (alternate weeks)
Traps
Stomach - Gut Buster Slings & Cable Pull Downs (High Reps)

I've done the Creatine/No Xplode/Long Jack Cycles in the past and want more. My mate keeps urging me to do em (d'boll head) and I've finally caved in and am quite interested in Avar/Tbol cos of the minimal side effects.

I know I'll need less carbs and more protein in my diet (bout 160g a day?) if I'm to start with Avar or Tbol (60mg/day oral, for 8 weeks?). I want more size but mainly more muscle definition. What strength gains will i get from them both... Do i need to change my routine? etc etc.... i don't eat a massive amount, but i can put weight on no troubles. What do you guys recommend?

Cheers for your time,

J

Ali M

Good routine there mate, it's very basic and simple, nothing complex there.

Most people first course tends to be D/bol..... Training looks good actually its almost my old routine, so cant praise you enough there. Your rep range is good and your volume is good.

Jimmy Bizzle

To be honest D/bol seems a bit daunting for me... it is a lot stronger right? I don't want to get to big, i heard there is minimal water retention with Avar/Tbol?

Remembering everything is a question for me, very new this milarky.

Cheers for the comments, that is reassuring to know about my routine

Tall

Allo mate. 6ft 3 and 13stone? Theres probably alot more natural growth left in you.

From the comment you mate on protein - sounds like you aint eating enough

Rianabol

Hi Mate

Var is excellent a lowbf levels, used both apex and gl both awesome, sounds good

R

sitries

go with the tbol bizzle. high protein and medium carbs. talk to frank 1st though!!

streetlife

Sustanon 250 for 8 weeks maybe with some winstrol tabs too that will pack on some size for you.

Extreme

I'd advise you to use equipoise or primo for 6-8 weeks (400mg weekly) with either tbol, anavar (30-40mg daily) or winstrol tabs (25-50mg daily) running alongside. Side effect will be minimal and gains should be mostly kept.

This course will be clean and cost effective.

sitries

will Equipoise be effective with a 6-8 week cycle though extreme??? i was under the impression that 12weeks was the minimum length of an EQ cycle.

astro_warp

I'd advise anavar at 15 to 30mg daily. I wouldnt advise anymore than that as I'm on day 4 of a 15mg a day cycle and everything is bigger, veinier (is that a word?!) and harder.

And when I say everything I'm including my ****....which was a little unexpected!