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| Banned Legend Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 898 Rep Power: ![]() | Simple question lads, can you take Test Enth as a single injection say every Sunday or is it best split and taken every 3rd day. I think Deca is split to every 3rd day, , or can Deca be taken as a once a week jab or is it best every 3rd day. Thank you |
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| Legend Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Birmingham/Bristol Posts: 886 Rep Power: ![]() | The undecanoate ester (Deca) is longer acting than enanthate (Test E). You definitely want to pin Test E 2x/week to get stable blood levels - I believe Mon/Thurs is most common; mixing your Deca and jabbing both would make sense. Based upon the above, give the Deca extra clearance time when ending the cycle (say 1-12 Test E, 1-10 Deca), else you'll have a hard time during PCT. |
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| Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: west yorkshire Posts: 985 Rep Power: ![]() | razg is on point again. but how do you know monday/thursday are the most common days to take gear? interesting.... if you hate pinning up, stick it once a week (if it's 2ml or under), otherwise the more frquent the better. ______________________ my missus www.rachael-grice.co.uk |
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| Banned Legend Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 898 Rep Power: ![]() | hi tiggy, i dont mind pinning daily mate. needles dont scare me. ive opted for 1 ml of each every 3rd day after first injection i.e. Wed, Sat, Tue, Fri, Mon. Thanks everyone |
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| Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: west yorkshire Posts: 985 Rep Power: ![]() | won't make any difference. same applies with cyp my friend. ______________________ my missus www.rachael-grice.co.uk |
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| Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 26 Rep Power: ![]() | Agreed, with 2x or more schedule. It wont make _much_ of difference, but _if_ someone was to pin themselves once a week longer ester would be preferred. Cypionate have 2days longer halflife than enanthate, so it will give slightly more stable average. Probably even then it wouldn't matter much, but hey, people inject sustanon E3D or more to have stable levels |
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| Illuminati Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,539 Rep Power: ![]() | Its actually usually 1.5 days - that said its not just the length of the ester that determines the half life. The actual half-life is determined by the solution as a whole. The type of oil, amount and types of solvents all contribute to the half-life of a product. For instance the half-life of Testosterone Enanthate is said to be 10.5 days. However, by using a polyhydric alcohol along with benzyl alcohol and a fast absorbing oil you can reduce that to about 8 days. On the other hand you make a solution that has very little benzyl alcohol and a healthy amount of benzyl benzoate with slow absorbing oil you can get 12 days or better. Testosterone base is another good example. Using a polyhydric solution it is absorbed in 12 hours or less, in a slow absorbing solution that can be made as long as 36 hours. That is the difference between injecting 2 to 3 times a day and once a day. So the manufacture (or how you made it) will make up to a 50% difference in what the actual half-life is in some cases with shorter esters. Steroid esters Drug Active half-life Formate 1.5 days Acetate 3 days Propionate 4.5 days Phenylpropionate 4.5 days Butyrate 6 days Valerate 7.5 days Hexanoate 9 days Caproate 9 days Isocaproate 9 days Heptanoate 10.5 days Enanthate 10.5 days Octanoate 12 days Cypionate 12 days Nonanoate 13.5 days Decanoate 15 days Undecanoate 16.5 days Oral steroids Drug Active half-life Anadrol / Anapolan50 (oxymetholone) 8 to 9 hours Anavar (oxandrolone) 9 hours Dianabol (methandrostenolone, methandienone) 4.5 to 6 hours Methyltestosterone 4 days Winstrol (stanozolol) (tablets or depot taken orally) 9 hours Depot steroids Drug Active half-life Deca-durabolin (Nandrolone decanate) 15 days Equipoise 14 days Finaject (trenbolone acetate) 3 days Primobolan (methenolone enanthate) 10.5 days Sustanon or Omnadren 15 to 18 days Testosterone Cypionate 12 days Testosterone Enanthate 10.5 days Testosterone Propionate 4.5 days Testosterone Suspension 1 day * Winstrol (stanozolol) 1 day *Winstrol depot does not actually possess a classical half-life because it is un-esterified. Instead, the microcrystals dissolve slowly. Once they have all dissolved levels of the drug fall very rapidly. It is still an important consideration, and we have included it with a half-life of one day. Ancillaries Drug Active half-life Arimidex 3 days Clenbuterol 1.5 days Clomid 5 days Cytadren 6 hours Ephedrine 6 hours T3 10 hours Last edited by Young Gun; 20-09-2007 at 06:12 PM. |
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