First Cyle - help needed

Ali M

to many questions mate like i said read a book...

sitries

go with test for sust for 8 weeks with finasteride - 1 tab per day - this will stop the threat of the hairloss. or go with another test compound like enanthate oe cypionate for 10 weeks ( longer esters and therefore take longer to kick in). or alternatively, if you dont want to inject and dont wna blow up too much then you could go with a simple oral coarse like 6-8weeks of turnibol, or anavar. They are easy on the hairline because they are low androgens. Stay well clear of dinabol or anadrol though if your worried about your hair. and for PCT - go witha month of nolvadex. hope this helps. tbh though - youl need to do another month research before you decide to take the plunge. good luck

ali541

thanks dude for the advice at least someone on here is helpful. ali m was just being a fool not even gving me nasic advice except' read a book' what do you think im doing on this forum im researching getting the views and opinions of people who have used em for gods sake. ali m you are so off putting you should be booted of this forum, your an idiot......cheers for the advice mate yeah well i was gonna start my course around 6-7 weeks i reckon i have plenty of time to do research cheers for the info much respect, unlike some (ali m)

Ali M

mate i dont mind helping you but u ask too maqny questions, i mean no one has yet answered them have they? no.

Best bet is to go through the forum first and read as much as possible. and dont dis people on here, u have 11 posts and ur dissing people, well i will not help you again.

ali541

hi Ali m. thats fine i never said i wouldnt read or that i cant be bothered to read. but the point of using this forum is for help...all im saying is that i found some of you advice not appropriate and helpfull thats all maybe we just got off on the wrong foot...how about we atart again i dont want to turn this into a full blow argument. is that okay with you.....clean slate

sitries

Ali 541. ignore ppl who are being unfriendly on the forum - dont rise to it. theres plenty of people on here who are willing to answer your questions. The general consensus from the posts iv seen however is that youv got a fair bit to learn about steroids, diet and training before you start cycling. Heres a bit of info to help with your research -

1st off (DIET)- if you want to gain weight and are a hardgainer - you need to eat a ridiculous amount of food. especially when taking steroids. (whats the point of putting potent hormones in your body and taking the risks associated with gear if your not going to maximise your gains). When i say eat a lot im talking 6-8 meals a day of high protein and carbs. Once youv done this for a while - ul be sick of the sight of food - trust me!!!

2ndly (TRAINING)- you need to get your training right. Heavy lifting, low to medium reps - 3-8 for example. Youl need to work out more that twice a week!!!!!!!!! In my opinion - 4 works best for me. Mon - shoulders, Wed - Back and Bis, Friday - chest and tris, Sunday - legs and abs. Or if you cant manage 4times a week - do 3times a week and incorporate legs and shoulders together and just do some abs at home another day.

3rdly (GEAR)- For a 1st cycle - the key is to keep it simple. One compound is all you need. The best steroid for maximum muscle gains is Test. Enanthate or cypionate is a good bet for a 1st cycle. 500mg per week split over two jabs a week for 10weeks. Eating 6-8 meals a day, training 3-4 times a week will pack 2stone onto your frame.
To minimise side effects from testosterone - i would take 1 tab of nolvadex( anti estrogen) each day of the cycle - this will stop the chances of bitch tits and maybe a bit of water bloat. Also during the cycle you should take 1 finasteride tablet. This will stop Male pattern Baldness which is normally associated with testosterone. The last 4 weeks of the cycle i would also take 500iu of HCG every 4 days (Pregnyl) to kick ur nuts back into producing some of their own test again ( by this time you will be totally shutdown)
Then you need to consider PCT(post cycle therapy) this is to get ur nuts working again and stop the rebound effect of estrogen( PCT helps you keep hold of the weight uv gained). 2 weeks after ur last jab you should start a 4-5 weeks program of nolvadex - starting from 60 mg a day tapering down to 10mg per day for the last week of the pct.

ok thats enough from me. I did a load of research before my cycle and this is basically the stuff i picked up and the views i formed from my research. Having said this id still look around and research for at least a few months before you take the plunge.

**** i must be bored - this is the longest post iv ever written. Gym time!

Squatty

Fantastic post sitries. The amount of flaming ali541 has had only gives the forum a bad name - at least with a reply like yours he can make a better informed decision

ali541

hi guys. thanks to everyone who is teering me the right way wich i what expected when i came on to this forum..cheers stiries i will defo take your advice...

Young Gun

great post by sitries. The problem is mate that no one person on here can give you all the info you need. If you incur an issue or problem during or after your cycle you need to understand what is happening and how to deal with it. You need to do at least 2 months full on research before doing a cycle. The science is quite difficult to grasp to do it safely.

Now I'm not saying you need to know everything but envisage a problem on your cycle.

Nosebleeds headaches and high BP
gyno
a syst
lack of gains

or afterwards

lack of sex drive
gyno

or various others.

You need to know what to do and how to do it. No one person here has the time or I imagine would take the effort to do that.
Thats why steroids books are usually well over 300 pages. You need to resaerch. Its not a pop just a fact. All your questions have been answered before many are stickies on the board.

If you do gear now its extremely likely that one of two things will happen.

1. You do yourself some damage. (which is unlikely)
2. You make mediocre gains given your potential at this stage and lose them all in the proceeding few months.

Read the stickies on here and on other sites that are open to the public. wikipedia even has some good info. Google anabolic and you will find tons. I hope that helps

Also just for reference. You haven't reached anywhere near you potentail if you can't deadlift 2x your bodyweight can bench 1x bodyweight for 10 reps and can do ten chins just as a starter.

Good luck we all do want you to succeed thats what the bodybuilding community is about we just want you to do it safely smartly and after having earnt it

ali541

Hi young gun. cheers for the excellent feedback and comments. yeah i am doing my research and lookingheavily into it. i have a freind who is a qualified instructor and has beeing bodybuilding for aounf 7 years who ben an excellent help.

like i said on this post i have 7 weeks before i start taking them so this gives me enought time to read, get to kno wich steorids are for what purpose, their side affects,dangers, etc etc.

i wil take your advice about checking out other websites as well.