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| Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 891 Rep Power: ![]() | i have some IGF-1 and looking to start my course at the end of the month, can anyone tell me if i need to mix this with anything as it arrived in just 2 botles, so im assuming you dont mix it with anything. thanks guys, p.s. what sort of dose would you use. ive read the best results are between 60mcgs and 120 mcgs |
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| Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: west yorkshire Posts: 1,009 Rep Power: ![]() | depends what type of stuff you got. you'll need some bac water i would have thought. personally, don't rate lr3 igf-1. seriously over hyped. ______________________ my missus www.rachael-grice.co.uk |
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| Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 891 Rep Power: ![]() | Long R3 IGF-1 from Ampsntabs. So defo need bac water as it comes as a clear liquid. why overrated? everything ive read sais good product, your the first negative response ive had, and that's good as now we can all debate it. Just reading the bottle and it says GroPep Long R3IGF-1 then says 1ml Acetic acid. do i still need to add anything to it? Last edited by Ali M; 31-08-2007 at 07:40 PM. |
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| Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 699 Rep Power: ![]() | The Acetic acid is the solvent. Basically IGF will desolve in any medium, Bac Water, NaCl or Acetic acid (AA), however due to the small size of the molecule a small percentage of the IGF will get lodged in the grooves of the glass vial (glass isn't perfectly smooth, as you may or may not know). NaCl will disolve a greater percentage of IGF so less of it is available to be stuck in the grooves, and Acetic acid will dissolve even more still. The trick is to add the 1ml AA to the IGF, then, when you need to take a shot draw out enough (in an insulin pen) and then draw up som bac water so it mixes inside the slin pen and inject the mix. ______________________ APPLIED KNOWLEDGE, IS POWER!!! The real challenge is to be yourself in a world that wants you to be someone else!! www.rippedglutes.net |
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| Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 891 Rep Power: ![]() | Neil the stuff already has the AA mixed in with it i think. I brought 2 bottles of GroPep LONG™R³IGF-1 from Ampsntabs. What came in the post was 2 bottles ready mixed. and im assuming it came ready to be injected, as there was no mixing agent with it like you get with GH. if i need to mix more AA with it then where would one get this from? Thanks for responding guy's |
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| Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 699 Rep Power: ![]() | You'll just need som Bac water then, just to deaden the 'sting' a little ______________________ APPLIED KNOWLEDGE, IS POWER!!! The real challenge is to be yourself in a world that wants you to be someone else!! www.rippedglutes.net |
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| Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,021 Rep Power: ![]() | Neil is correct what you need to do is get some Bac water or sterile water from boots draw up 30iu's into a slin pin then draw into the pin 4iu's of the IGF-1 (1ml of IGF-1 = 1000mcgs so 4iu's = 40mcg's) this does is sufficient for a first timer take this all IM bi-laterally PWO. There is one thing i will say and that is GroPep only sells to a few supplies mostly in the states and even then only to pharmaceutical labs and then they make sure the lab does not make it public, i was not aware they sold to UG labs like AnT i would love to see the paper work that would come with the order from GroPep to AnT....maybe AnT can provide us with it ?? Shane can i ask how you used the IGF-1LR3 to come to the opinion it is over hyped mate i think that many over estimate what IGF-1LR3 can give you in my opinion if used with a AAS cycle 1-2lbs maximum can be achieved but even this would take time as new muscle cells don't just appear overnight. what most feel straight away is a huge pump when training they mistakenly take this as new muscle growth which it is not, another problem is that many take to much to soon for to long and saturate the IGF cells this will stop any further progress with the drug..... this drug is being seen by many as a quick and easy way to big hard ripped muscle which could not be further from the truth....the best time to use this drug is PCT.... ______________________ www.omegalabs.co.uk http://www.extremenutrition.co.uk/at...ough/index.php |
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| Moderator Musclechat Icon Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: west yorkshire Posts: 1,009 Rep Power: ![]() | i have tried lr3 igf-1 and i felt the increased pump. initially. after my course i felt it honestly hadn't benefitted my physique in any way. perhaps it is useful during pct as you say, but you already know my approach to pct so it's not for me there either. maybe i should experiment with it more to get the best effect from it, but i prefer to keep it simple and basic. works for me this far. bottom line for anyone, do what you're prepared to do, if it works great, if not don't do it again. ______________________ my missus www.rachael-grice.co.uk |
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| Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,021 Rep Power: ![]() | fair one shane ______________________ www.omegalabs.co.uk http://www.extremenutrition.co.uk/at...ough/index.php |
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| Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 891 Rep Power: ![]() | 40mcg's into 1000mcgs is 25 shots of 4iu's. however theres no way ill get that, lucky if i get 3 shots of 4iu's out of the bottle so im obviously not getting something here, can someone explain. the way the calculations are working out and the cost it makes it more than 6 times more expensived than GH and i was told that its cheaper thanks guys Last edited by Ali M; 01-09-2007 at 07:56 PM. |
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