advice from moderators(enanthate)

ian

hi guys ive spoken to a couple of you before you gave some good advice, would just like your opinion again. this is my second course of gear (1st time i used deca on its own 200mg every five days for nine weeks , i put on seven pounds but only managed to keep two)even though my diet is spot on.bench press before gear was 3 plates each side two each side for shoulder press(just thought i`d mention that before anyone said i dont train hard enough).Ive got test enanthate lined up i really want this to be the last time i use if i can so its essential i put on and keep some decent poundage what dosage do you recommend ,would you take it with anything else?any comments much appreciated thanks.

LeeB

to be honest mate i think your looking for the holy grail "one course to make me massive and keep me that way"

it just doesnt exist, if there is a reason why you dont want to take gear in future then surely that reason is still applicable now?

decca only is not a great cycle. i still think only 7lb while "on" is not a good gain and probably tweaks to your diet and training would increase this (i know you say both are spot on but these are both things which need constant change to keep your body progressing).

as regards doseage of the enanthate. 500-1000mg a week depending on how much you have used for previous cycles and how "advanced" you would honestly say you are.

altho i dont think a test only cycle is the best choice either!

PScarb

well seeing as you are looking at your 2nd cycle then 500mg of a test be that sus, enthanate or cyp is up to you but this would be enough...

i have to echo what Lee has said if you are going to stop using gear at the end of this 2nd cycle then why bother as the muscle over time will deflate and you will get smaller.

agree again that 7lbs on a first cycle is poor at best i would re-evaluate what you consider is "spot on" when it comes to diet....

Neil R

Personally I think the 7 pound gain (from just 200mg Deca every 5 days for 9 weeks) would have been a good gain....had you have kept it all. But I get better results from pro-hormones!!!

I noticed you mentioned how strong you are but NOT your eating habits, which, along with your inability to hold your gains, suggests it ain't up to par. Are you eating 6-7 meals a day with protein at 1.5g per LB (min) and carbs at 3g per LB (min) ???

Lee has it spot on with the 'Holy grail'.


Oh, and good to see ya back Paul mate! How did your guys fair in the comps?

PScarb

non have competed yet Neil i have been away with work which i have just finished tonight

I have 4 guys competing this year...
2 at the UKBFF finals
Stuart Core
Venetia Grouxe
then 2 at the NABBA Britain 2 in November
Del Honyman
Pete Nurse(training partner)

all have everychance of doing well plus prepping keeps my mind off competing myself.....hope you are in good health Neil i hope to see you at one of the above shows this year??

ian

thanks for your honest replies,my reasoning for wanting this to be my last cycle is i did`nt want to become dependant of gear +keeping side effects to a minimum.Lee - what would you suggest to take with enanthate?pscarb-you mentioned muscle shrinkage are you refering to age related because i`ll be training until they tuck me in for the big lay-in.thanks again.(maybe this wont be my last cycle but i`m sure everyone starts their path this way.)cheers.

PScarb

no mate nothing to do with age or how much you train, steriods do not produce new muscle cells they make the existing muscle cells larger so in time when you have come off gear they will shink back down maybe not to what they where before you used gear but not far off...

i have been using gear for 18yrs i am not dependant on it to exist if that was the case i would never come off i am not trying to convince you to continue to use gear just trying to understand why you used it in the first place

ian

hi mate ive stayed away from gear all this time (age 37-22 years training)because when i was 18 i had a major illness (had to have a course of chemotherapy).but from the age of 20 everthings been o.k but in the back of my mind i was always conscious taking gear and their side effects would cause illness to return,but as ive got older and wiser i think f***k it you only live once .anyway sorry to bore you ,any advice about enanthate take it on its own or stack it .LeeB doesnt rate taking it on its own.what does it stack well with?

Neil R

Well, on previous performances you have two 'bankers' in Stuart & Venetia, both would be worthy class winners at the British, Venetia looked absolutely amazing in her qualifier, as soon as I saw the pics I just thought "Oh my god, she could turn pro!".
I know what you mean about work mate, I've been on overtime every day for the last two months...i'm shagged out!!!...never mind, just thinking of the money LOL

I'm doing really well healthy wise (touch wood) had a good 'clean out for the last 4 months, and I feel so much better for it. Hopefully, if work permits, i'll do something over christmas and mybe do a show early next year.
Hows your offseason going?? All good I hope