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Default Different methods

There are alot of methods out there for the use of GH and other peptides.
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As we all know by now there is no ONE best way to use GH as we are all different and therefore react differently, I have tried most methods and cannot really see much diffrence between the methods when we are talking about GH alone.
I am trying a new method at the moment where you take your whole weekly dose in one shot on a Sunday night with a small top up on the Thursday night, The theory is that by injecting a massive amount of gh exogenous you will stimulate a huge natural release to follow as sort of a rebound effect. There is some thought that a huge dose will taper off rapidly leaving you in a valley that the body will try to recover from by release more of your natural gh to compensate.
I have been doing this for three weeks and i am holding both my weight and condition although i have been on PCT for 5 weeks.....
so if you are taking 4iu's ed then on a Sunday night you take 24iu's then on Thursday take 4iu's top up.

There are other similar methods that have you using a large amount every 3rd day the key to both theory's is that you do not raise your weekly amount you just jab it all in one shot or split it into 2-3 shots.
So for this method you would split the 28iu's(4iu's ed) into 2-3 shots taken through the week.
both these methods are mainly used for mass more than fat-burning although you will get some fat burning from both methods.
In my opinion the best way to use GH for fat-loss is to use ed injections....

GH/Slin
Now i am by no way advocating that anybody uses Slin as you really need to understand both how slin works and how your body reacts to carbs so that you do not risk your health.

The best way i have found to use these two together is to inject both in the same pin Intramuscular PWO bilaterally the results i got where nothing short of amazing again the theory behind this method is that the GH and Slin create a huge IGF-1 release when taken together and because of the very short half life of IGF-1 PWO is by far the best time to take them.

Guys i am not saying you should use these methods but for you to realise that there are more than one way to build muscle, the good thing is that in the first two methods you don't use any more GH than you normally would you just use the amount in a different way....

IGF-1LR3
It makes me really annoyed that alot of guys are using this peptide as a way of side stepping using steroids don't misunderstand i am not advocating the use of steroids but i really believe that IGF-1LR3 is an advanced peptide that should be used by those who have reached a certain level with steroids....sorry about the rant...

Again i have trailed alot of methods over the 2yrs i have used this peptide the biggest issue with this peptide is the duration of its use unlike GH where the results are better the longer you use it IGF-1LR3 can only be used for a short time of between 4-8 weeks due to cells saturation.

For beginners 20 - 50mcg's 5 days a week is a good place to start because you are using it nearly every day 5 weeks is pretty much as long as you can use this method without the gains stopping this method the injections should be taken bi-laterally PWO.

For the more advanced Bodybuilder i have found the best method is a higher amount less frequently the method i have just tried with good results is 120mcg's split through the day 2 days on 2 days off this method can be used for longer periods as the cell saturation does not occur as quickly as using IGF-1LR3 ed......

Any questions guys feel free to ask.....

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Old 30-07-2007, 11:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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does the use of GH when using large amounts in one injection and then the top up midweek increase the chances of sides?
i`m thinking of the skeletal growth you hear about-
i beleive the wrestler HHH had his brows shaved last year...

or is the reality of the situation that sides are actually rather rare?

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With me being a coward the fact that IGF is still a research chemical with which the word cancer has been linked with is enough to put me off but for what reason do you say its for guys who have reached a certain level with steroids?
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the use of all those drugs is common practice today in the amateur ranks (and amongst people who never even step on stage) but do you guys think the quality of physique has improved since these hormones have become so widely used ? the one difference i've noticed, is some f'king truely horrible shaped physiques on stage now a days. do these drugs bloat the midsection, in my opinion without a doubt. does this ruin a physique, i gotta say in most cases yes.
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Is the mid-section bloat due to the GH/IGF/AAS causing the organs to grow as well as the surrounding muscles...?
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the use of all those drugs is common practice today in the amateur ranks (and amongst people who never even step on stage) but do you guys think the quality of physique has improved since these hormones have become so widely used ? the one difference i've noticed, is some f'king truely horrible shaped physiques on stage now a days. do these drugs bloat the midsection, in my opinion without a doubt. does this ruin a physique, i gotta say in most cases yes.
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i did ask the omega labs dude about the cancer thing and it seems unless you already have a cancer(growth i beleive would be accelerated)it doesnt cause it.

BUT

given that theres no long term research.......

i personally cant see why everyone and their mum on the boards these days seems to be doing it.
i`m not having a pop at competitors more at the disbelief of normal board members(from wherever).
i even know one dude(member here)who did igf for his first cycle.

i also know of a top competitor who altho he`d vaguely heard of it didnt know much about it!

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i also know of a top competitor who altho he`d vaguely heard of it didnt know much about it!
I think i know him too

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Is the mid-section bloat due to the GH/IGF/AAS causing the organs to grow as well as the surrounding muscles...?

Kind of....

The belly bloat is partly caused by the fact that the intestines have a high density of IGF receptors, which are targeted by all three of the above mentioned peptides, but is exacerbated by the fact that an increased need ( and consumption) of carbs and proteins are required/consumed. The extra food-intake/volume holds fluid & blood in the intestines giving a much greater level of distention. This level of force feeding required by modern day 'athletes' gives the body very little option, but to retain the excess somewhere. Believe me , your intestines can hold 30-50lb of food...if you doubt this fact, just consider how much weight you lost the last time you got food poisoning....or if anyone has ever had a colonic you will know you can be 15lbs lighter after just one treatment...I honestly think this will be the method for 'abdomen control' used by professionals within the next 12 months or so.....if they can bear the loss of so much 'weight'....

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so the next logical question follows,

do you think the distended midsection so prevalant today is reversable after discontinuation of these hormones ?


my two cents, yes i absolutely do think so.
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